I tried that, generating key size 512, but made no difference.

cas.authn.pac4j.core.sessionReplication.cookie.crypto.signing.key=
g5u4yeZbOwCMk....JkqKFrg
cas.authn.pac4j.core.sessionReplication.cookie.crypto.encryption.key=
VqK-ZHme.........81nQ0w
cas.authn.oauth.session-replication.cookie.crypto.signing.key=
AAjPvP.....fxobGSOjqGOnCIw
cas.authn.oauth.session-replication.cookie.crypto.encryption.key=
1LruW5k......LXBmow

as I place object in  
DelegatedClientAuthenticationDynamicDiscoveryExecutionAction, I cannot get 
it from  DelegatedClientAuthenticationWebflowStateContributor, because it 
does Not look like it is in conversation.

2025-10-15 15:47:37,809 INFO [tomcat-handler-12] 
[org.apereo.cas.web.flow.actions.QuestDelegatedClientAuthenticationDynamicDiscoveryExecutionAction]
 
- <=== DISCOVERY ACTION START ===>
2025-10-15 15:47:37,810 INFO [tomcat-handler-12] 
[org.apereo.cas.web.flow.actions.QuestDelegatedClientAuthenticationDynamicDiscoveryExecutionAction]
 
- <Conversation ID: c8886eb6-dfe7-.....dTdzOXhKSUY5V0tieGZB>
2025-10-15 15:47:37,810 INFO [tomcat-handler-12] 
[org.apereo.cas.web.flow.actions.QuestDelegatedClientAuthenticationDynamicDiscoveryExecutionAction]
 
- <Flow ID: login>
2025-10-15 15:47:37,810 INFO [tomcat-handler-12] 
[org.apereo.cas.web.flow.actions.QuestDelegatedClientAuthenticationDynamicDiscoveryExecutionAction]
 
- <Current State: delegatedAuthenticationProviderDiscoveryExecution>
2025-10-15 15:47:43,324 INFO [tomcat-handler-12] 
[org.apereo.cas.web.flow.actions.QuestDelegatedClientAuthenticationDynamicDiscoveryExecutionAction]
 
- <Stored QuestDelegatedAuthenticationContext - CAS username [...]>


2025-10-15 15:47:51,818 INFO [tomcat-handler-13] 
[org.apereo.cas.web.flow.QuestDelegatedClientAuthenticationWebflowStateContributor]
 
- <=== STATE CONTRIBUTOR STORE START ===>
2025-10-15 15:47:51,818 INFO [tomcat-handler-13] 
[org.apereo.cas.web.flow.QuestDelegatedClientAuthenticationWebflowStateContributor]
 
- <Conversation ID: null>
2025-10-15 15:47:51,818 INFO [tomcat-handler-13] 
[org.apereo.cas.web.flow.QuestDelegatedClientAuthenticationWebflowStateContributor]
 
- <Flow ID: clientredirect>
2025-10-15 15:47:51,818 INFO [tomcat-handler-13] 
[org.apereo.cas.web.flow.QuestDelegatedClientAuthenticationWebflowStateContributor]
 
- <Current State: delegatedAuthenticationStoreWebflowState>

On Monday, October 13, 2025 at 4:28:16 PM UTC-4 Yan Zhou wrote:

> This is a single instance of CAS running on my laptop, why would there be 
> a need to replicate session?
>
> login and clientredirect flows are two separate flows, but they are in the 
> same conversation, the object should be available in the conversation 
> state, correct (there is only one instance of CAS running)?
>
> Yan
>
> On Wednesday, October 8, 2025 at 2:22:05 PM UTC-4 Ray Bon wrote:
>
>> Do you have the session replication cookies set [1]
>> cas.authn.pac4j.core.session-replication.cookie.crypto 
>>
>> Ray
>> [1] 
>> https://apereo.github.io/cas/7.2.x/integration/Delegate-Authentication.html
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Yan Zhou <
>> [email protected]>
>> *Sent:* October 7, 2025 13:14
>> *To:* CAS Community <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* [cas-user] objects not available in conversation scope, 
>> delegated authN? 
>>  
>> HI there, 
>>
>> I am using CAS 7.2.5 overlay,  delegated authN via SAML.  CAS delegates 
>> to external IdP.
>>
>> As seen below in 
>> DelegatedClientAuthenticationDynamicDiscoveryExecutionAction, I store some 
>> value in flow's conversation scope (part of "login" flow), BEFORE user gets 
>> redirected to external IdP,  I expect the objects are available in the same 
>> conversation, but I find it is Null in 
>> DelegatedClientAuthenticationWebflowStateContributor.
>>
>> Via some debug code, i noticed that the conversation Id in  
>> DelegatedClientAuthenticationWebflowStateContributor shows as Null, as part 
>> of "clientredirect" flow. 
>>
>> Even though login and clientredirect flows are two separate flows, but 
>> they are in the same conversation, I do Not understand why it shows Null 
>> for the 2nd part and object Not available.
>>
>> thx!
>>
>> public class 
>> MyDelegatedClientAuthenticationDynamicDiscoveryExecutionAction extends 
>> DelegatedClientAuthenticationDynamicDiscoveryExecutionAction {
>>     
>>    protected Event doExecuteInternal(final RequestContext requestContext) 
>> {
>>             ..........
>> testflow(requestContext);
>> ..........
>>  
>>     private void testflow (final RequestContext requestContext)     {
>>         // Debug conversation information
>>         LOGGER.info("=== DISCOVERY ACTION START ===");
>>         LOGGER.info("Conversation ID: {}", 
>> requestContext.getFlowExecutionContext().getKey());
>>         LOGGER.info("Flow ID: {}", 
>> requestContext.getActiveFlow().getId());
>>         LOGGER.info("Current State: {}", 
>> requestContext.getCurrentState().getId());
>>         
>>
>>
>> public class MyDelegatedClientAuthenticationWebflowStateContributor 
>> extends DefaultDelegatedClientAuthenticationWebflowStateContributor {
>>
>>     @Override
>>     public Map<String, Serializable> store(final RequestContext 
>> requestContext, final WebContext webContext,
>>                                            final Client client) throws 
>> Throwable {
>>         testflow(requestContext, webContext);
>> ....................
>>
>>
>>    public void testflow(final RequestContext requestContext, final 
>> WebContext webContext) {
>>         LOGGER.info("=== STATE CONTRIBUTOR STORE START ===");
>>         LOGGER.info("Conversation ID: {}", 
>> requestContext.getFlowExecutionContext().getKey());
>>         LOGGER.info("Flow ID: {}", 
>> requestContext.getActiveFlow().getId());
>>         LOGGER.info("Current State: {}", 
>> requestContext.getCurrentState().getId());
>>
>> 2025-10-07 15:59:26,001 INFO [tomcat-handler-8] 
>> [org.apereo.cas.web.flow.MyDelegatedClientAuthenticationWebflowStateContributor]
>>  
>> - <=== STATE CONTRIBUTOR STORE START ===>
>> 2025-10-07 15:59:26,001 INFO [tomcat-handler-8] 
>> [org.apereo.cas.web.flow.MyDelegatedClientAuthenticationWebflowStateContributor]
>>  
>> - <Conversation ID: null>
>> 2025-10-07 15:59:26,001 INFO [tomcat-handler-8] 
>> [org.apereo.cas.web.flow.MyDelegatedClientAuthenticationWebflowStateContributor]
>>  
>> - <Flow ID: clientredirect>
>> 2025-10-07 15:59:26,001 INFO [tomcat-handler-8] 
>> [org.apereo.cas.web.flow.MyDelegatedClientAuthenticationWebflowStateContributor]
>>  
>> - <Current State: delegatedAuthenticationStoreWebflowState>
>>
>> 2025-10-07 15:59:26,001 INFO [tomcat-handler-8] 
>> [org.apereo.cas.web.flow.MyDelegatedClientAuthenticationWebflowStateContributor]
>>  
>> - <Flow scope object: null>
>> 2025-10-07 15:59:26,001 INFO [tomcat-handler-8] 
>> [org.apereo.cas.web.flow.MyDelegatedClientAuthenticationWebflowStateContributor]
>>  
>> - <Conversation scope object: null>
>> 2025-10-07 15:59:26,001 INFO [tomcat-handler-8] 
>> [org.apereo.cas.web.flow.MyDelegatedClientAuthenticationWebflowStateContributor]
>>  
>> - <Request scope object: null>
>>
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