> Agree to disagree, then.

With a great deal of respect, certainly, but I guess I'm not yet relating to your perspective on this and am not yet ready to give up on understanding one another.

What happens in a CAS deployment is that the login JSP files are input to creative professionals who then customize the JSP, craft the markup and CSS and even JavaScript, apply the institutional brand, and get to the central login experience for the institution adopting CAS, right? Some of these professionals are familiar with JSP, many are not but cope fine because it mostly looks like HTML.

I don't relate to the allusion to an installer. No installer wizard would be sufficient to get to a login UI appropriate to the central authentication brand of most CAS adopters.

I don't think we need an installation wizard to generate the login UI, at least not as the incremental improvement. Just better starting JSP templates that are more helpful to the adopters starting from those templates.

uPortal ships with a default UI that lists example username/password pairs right on the not-yet-logged-in user experience. This is sensible because everyone who sees that default experience is a new adopter getting started with a uPortal install -- by the time any end users see it, that not logged in experience has been honed to the content, portlets, experience that reflects what the portal has to say to not-yet-logged-in users. CAS is like that but less so.

Andrew


On 06/21/2011 11:57 AM, Marvin Addison wrote:
The default login UI should be focused on
communicating to and enabling the success of CAS deployers, not
communicating with end users.
Agree to disagree, then.

In fact, I'll suggest going further to make the default
login.jsp more "meta", perhaps adding notes/placeholders for the sorts of
things most adopters will want to add to that page, like messaging about
whom to contact if you don't have an account / forgot your password / need
technical support.
Good suggestions with the wrong target.  These belong in a guided
installation process, not the default UI.  In the Windows world, these
are captured in a wizard-driven installer, not the product itself.

M



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