Watkins, Jayme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
::snip::
>  I suppose it is possible to check the “Password
> Last Set” attribute, but if LDAP won’t let the person login even
> with their good password anymore, what good is it to check it since I can’t
> validate their password?
> 


It's important that the user be made aware *why* they can't login (the password
expired) and what they can do to correct the problem (go to a password
self-service page, call the help desk, etc...).  

Here's an example: we have an particularly high-traffic application that is a
heavily kludged up monstrosity that isn't able to give the user feedback on why
their login failed, and the number one help request for that app is "I can't
login".  99 times out of 100, we look them up and our response is "your password
expired, here's how to get it reset".  Basically, an hour a day is wasted
answering these requests.

We've tried (along with many others!) to get the upstream vendor of the app
(it's open source) to change this behavior, but the responses on the mailing
lists leave something to be desired.  We're replacing it at the end of the year.


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