Depending on why the service is accessing the web service you should either
use a proxy ticket (if you're accessing on behalf of a person) or the
RESTful API if a service is attempting to access another service.

-Scott

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 2:24 AM, tedzo <[email protected]> wrote:

> This is something I have been thinking about a bit.
>
> About option #2, I assume the service for which a ticket is obtained is the
> url of the web service I am trying to invoke. Does that sound right? Is
> there a standard method to obtain a service ticket for a web service url? In
> the past, I have used a hack that posts a request (2 actually) and parses
> the response to extract the service ticket. I am wondering if there is a
> standard approach to doing this.
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Scott Battaglia <[email protected]>
> *To:* Yale CAS mailing list <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:35:06 PM
> *Subject:* Re: CAS and remote methods
>
> For web services, its up to your application to maintain some form of
> session, otherwise the application would need to re-authenticate each time.
>
> That means you have two options:
> 1. Do something like what Spring Security does, which is cache the service
> ticket key for a period of time, and essentially forces it to be a session
> key.
> 2. Have your calling application retrieve a service or proxy ticket before
> making each request to the web service.
>
> -Scott
>
> -Scott Battaglia
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>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry, another newbie-related question.  I have some questions about
>> if/how CAS works with calls on remote objects.  I'm not that
>> Spring-knowledgable, but from discussions with developers who are
>> Spring-saavy, they are interested in using the a remote invocation mechanism
>> called HttpInvoker to carry out these requests using HTTP(s), so from one
>> machine they can make a call on an object that resides on a remote pc.  What
>> seems confusing to me is, wouldn't the CAS URL pattern filters (say, if I
>> had in my  "/*")  intercept every HttpInvoker call made, and then cause
>> problems, if we are communicating from pc1 to pc2 (who is using CAS to
>> protect their web application).  Say, HttpInvoker makes some call, and
>> expects the call is going straight through to access the remote object
>> and/or return some object/value.  But, the CAS URL filter will intercept,
>> and (may redirect to login URL, for example), which would throw off what
>> HttpInvoker would expect?
>>
>> 1) Am I looking at this situation in the right way?  Is there an existing
>> page that describes in some detail how the above might play happily
>> together?  If there is not, would somebody mind to explain an approach (or
>> key points to be aware of?)
>>
>> 2) Is there some way to make these invocations without needing to
>> explicitly log-in?  Kind of like where the remote API call is running as an
>> "internal service" level?  Because it seems awkward to me to have so many
>> steps (but, maybe it is necessary?) to have to go through some process to
>> log-in (as some predefined "service" user, maybe, which also seems like
>> awkward) , get the single-sign-on cookie, and grab a service ticket, to
>> build the connection, for something that is considered sort of "background"
>> process.
>>
>> 3) I had remembered seeing (older, pre 2.0) notes for Acegi security that
>> describes what sounded like a similar dilemma, and mention of a "stateless"
>> user.  I didn't fully understand how it worked, and was looking in the
>> Spring Security's 2.0 documentation (
>> http://static.springframework.org/spring-security/site/reference/html/springsecurity.html)
>>  for perhaps an update/example, but I could not locate anything that
>> described the stateless-ness.  I see in the API docs, there is a
>> CasAuthenticationProvider which mentions "CAS_STATELESS_IDENTIFIER" (and
>> that sounds a lot like what will be done with HttpInvoker), though.
>>
>> But, assuming HttpInvoker and CAS being friendly is possible, is Spring
>> Security necessary to support such a setup, or can this be easily(?) handled
>> with CAS standalone?
>>
>> Thank you for any insights!
>>
>> Kevin
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