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On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Matthieu Riou <[email protected]> wrote: > I didn't forget :) > > Now anybody logged in Confluence can create and edit pages. Have fun! > > Matthieu > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Avinash Lakshman < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Please do. I will catch you on chat if you forget :). >> >> Avinash >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Matthieu Riou >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Matthieu Riou <[email protected] >>> >wrote: >>> >>> > So let's put it this way: anybody fundamentally against using Forrest >>> for >>> > the website and opening up Confluence to the whole community (as long as >>> you >>> > signup) as the standard wiki? >>> > >>> >>> If nobody yells by Wednesday, I'll go ahead and open up Confluence. Feel >>> free to remind me if I forget :) >>> >>> Matthieu >>> >>> >>> > >>> > Matthieu >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Avinash Lakshman < >>> > [email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> >> I had started putting together something on the Confluence WIKI. Not >>> sure >>> >> how it fits together on the big scheme of things. >>> >> Avinash >>> >> >>> >> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Johan Oskarsson <[email protected]> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> > We now have a first version of the site running: >>> >> > http://incubator.apache.org/cassandra >>> >> > >>> >> > However, Matthieu commented on the wiki ticket here: >>> >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15 >>> >> > that he wants a decision on the site's future before moving on. >>> >> > >>> >> > The two options as far as I know: >>> >> > >>> >> > 1. Store the site and any source material in svn, publish to the >>> >> > apache.org site. It could be raw html, forrest xml+generated html, a >>> >> > script that generates html or something similar. >>> >> > >>> >> > 2. Use a wiki as the site. Confluence? >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > Personally I prefer option 1, so we can accept website patches from >>> >> anyone >>> >> > and leave the wiki as a publicly editable place for everyone to share >>> >> > information. >>> >> > >>> >> > I don't care if we use Forrest or not for the site, it was just an >>> easy >>> >> way >>> >> > to get started and a lot of Apache projects use it already. If option >>> 1 >>> >> is >>> >> > chosen we can discuss what tool to use later. >>> >> > >>> >> > What does everyone think? Should we initiate a vote about it? >>> >> > >>> >> > /Johan >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > Sandeep Tata wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >> I think the Forrest site is great to start with. If you check it >>> into >>> >> >> the repository, others will be able to contribute patches much like >>> >> >> code and the burden of building up the website will not fall on just >>> >> >> the committers. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> A publicly editable wiki might work too, but if only the committers >>> >> >> have edit permissions -- much of the work for building the site >>> falls >>> >> >> on them. We want to quickly get to a point where the committers can >>> >> >> review patches and guide the community in adding value to the code. >>> >> >> Not be bogged down in editing websites :) >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Matthieu Riou < >>> >> [email protected]> >>> >> >> wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Avinash Lakshman < >>> >> >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> I guess. Isn't that easier? Is there something else that is the >>> norm? >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> No norm, just several different options. I personally like when >>> the >>> >> >>> source >>> >> >>> used to generate the site can be checked in the repository but >>> that's >>> >> >>> mostly >>> >> >>> a matter of taste. This for example is generated with Forrest: >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> http://ant.apache.org/ >>> >> >>> http://lucene.apache.org/ >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> This is generated by a set of Ruby scripts from Textile files: >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> http://buildr.apache.org/ >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> And this is generated from Confluence using custom templates: >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> http://geronimo.apache.org/ >>> >> >>> http://ode.apache.org/ >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> FWIW, a Forrest site has already been contributed so that could be >>> >> used >>> >> >>> to >>> >> >>> start with until a sexier option is implemented? >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Matthieu >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Avinash >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Matthieu Riou < >>> >> >>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Avinash Lakshman < >>> >> >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> I just got myself added as an "Author" maybe couple of days ago. >>> I >>> >> >>>>>> will >>> >> >>>>>> start working on it. But there are other things too on my plate. >>> I >>> >> >>>>>> will >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>> get >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> around to it soon >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> So does that mean that you plan to use the wiki as a website? >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> Matthieu >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> Avinash >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Sandeep Tata < >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>> wrote: >>> >> >>>>>>> Prashant, Avinash, Jiansheng... >>> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>> Any update on the website? >>> >> >>>>>>> It has been several weeks since the project got into the >>> >> incubator, >>> >> >>>>>>> but we still don't seem to have a website. >>> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>> I think using Johan's Forrest generate site to start with is a >>> >> good >>> >> >>>>>>> idea. Are you guys considering anything else? What's holding us >>> >> up? >>> >> >>>>>>> Do >>> >> >>>>>>> you need any help with this? >>> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>> Sandeep >>> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Matthieu Riou < >>> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> [email protected] >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> wrote: >>> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Johan Oskarsson < >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>> [email protected] >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> wrote: >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> Ok, I understand. >>> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> On the topic of website I have suggested and created a basic >>> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> Forrest >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> generated site here: >>> >> >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2 >>> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> Nice! >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> No response from any of the committers on the jira or on the >>> >> lists >>> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> yet >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> though. >>> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> I believe they weren't subscribed yet :) So what do other >>> folks >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>> think >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> about >>> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> the website and using Forrest at least to get started? >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>> >> >>>>>>>> Matthieu >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> /Johan >>> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> Matthieu Riou wrote: >>> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Johan Oskarsson < >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>> wrote: >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Out of curiosity is there a reason to use a wiki without >>> >> public >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> edit >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>> access? Apache Hadoop, for example, have had one that is >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> editable >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> by >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>> anyone and they have not had any problems afaik. On the >>> contrary >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> believe a lot of useful updates wouldn't happen with a wiki >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> restricted >>> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> to committers only. >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I've started this way just because I don't know how the >>> wiki >>> >> is >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> going >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>> to >>> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> be >>> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> used by the project yet. >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Some projects use the Confluence wiki as their website and >>> even >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> bundle >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>> it >>> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> as >>> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> part of their distribution. In that context, only committers >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> should >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> be >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>> able >>> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> to contribute. I don't think it's the case for Hadoop, they >>> >> have >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> a >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> separate >>> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Forrest-generated website. >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> So depending on how the wiki is going to be used and how the >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> Apache >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> Casssandra website will be built, we can decide to have it work >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> either >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>> way. >>> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Matthieu >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> /Johan >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu Riou wrote: >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys, >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've just created a new Confluence space for Cassandra, >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Avinash's >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> planning >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> to use it and most projects find it handy anyway. If other >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> committers >>> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> want >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> edit access to it, please send me your Confluence user >>> name. >>> >> If >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> you >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>> don't >>> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> have one yet, just register there: >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >> >> >
