For those who already had investments in ms' version of the framework. And informed decisions don't come from biased parties...
2011/4/10 John Simons <[email protected]>: > Not really, I see this more in the area of giving the users the right > information to make an adequate decision. > Also, if you are not after MS MVC users then why "Easy migration from > ASP.NET MVC - you can have both co-existing in the same project if you want > to" ? > Cheers > John > > ________________________________ > From: hammett <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, 11 April 2011 8:07 AM > Subject: Re: MR+++ goals and value prop > > That's more in the area of competitive analysis, which I dont think > needs to be done. I'm not after MS MVC's users.. > > > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 4:27 PM, John Simons <[email protected]> > wrote: >> More points: >> - identify differences between Asp.net MVC and MR+++, basically why use >> it? >> >> >> Cheers, John >> >> On 10/04/2011, at 3:57, hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yep, Diagnostics is freaking important. >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:44 PM, John Simons <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> I forgot another one! >>>> - Diagnostics galore >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: John Simons <[email protected]> >>>> To: "[email protected]" >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, 9 April 2011 3:42 PM >>>> Subject: Re: MR+++ goals and value prop >>>> >>>> A few more points that I would like to see: >>>> - Awesome doco on how to get started + advanced topics; >>>> - Tools to automate tasks (eg. R# templates, VS integration, ....); >>>> - OWIN integration; >>>> - Conventions+++, please do not force me to inherit from Controller ever >>>> ever again! >>>> I'm wondering why bother with "Easy migration from ASP.NET MVC - you can >>>> have both co-existing in the same project if you want to" ? >>>> Cheers >>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Krzysztof Koźmic <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Saturday, 9 April 2011 10:12 AM >>>> Subject: Re: MR+++ goals and value prop >>>> >>>> It is hard to disagree with those points (value proposition). There's >>>> one >>>> (or two) notable absent though, that is conventions and defaults. >>>> >>>> I expected the "How does MR+++ help me?" to contain something like: >>>> >>>> - I can quickly add features with zero or mimimum "setup" by following >>>> MR+++ >>>> conventions and relying on reasonable defaults >>>> >>>> Another thing is, for me next gen web-apps more and more means - apps >>>> (vith >>>> version) optimized for mobile devices (smartphones, tablets). >>>> Making explicit effort to support that would fit the list well IMO. >>>> >>>> All in all - good to have you back :) >>>> >>>> Krzysztof >>>> >>>> On 09/04/2011 5:07 AM, hammett wrote: >>>>> If there's one thing I've learned at MS is that before writing a >>>>> single line of code, you should have a clear view of what you want to >>>>> accomplish, the value proposition - if you want people to use it - and >>>>> a measure of success. I've put together a small docs on my view to >>>>> mr+++ >>>>> >>>>> Thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AkeeJPh8kZQKtnHN3RDR3v-UfG7zt9wCL0jMiualUqI/edit?hl=en&authkey=CN7U99YN >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "Castle Project Development List" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/castle-project-devel?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "Castle Project Development List" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/castle-project-devel?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "Castle Project Development List" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/castle-project-devel?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> hammett >>> http://hammett.castleproject.org/ >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Castle Project Development List" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/castle-project-devel?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Castle Project Development List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/castle-project-devel?hl=en. >> >> > > > > -- > Cheers, > hammett > http://hammett.castleproject.org/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Castle Project Development List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/castle-project-devel?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Castle Project Development List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/castle-project-devel?hl=en. > -- Cheers, hammett http://hammett.castleproject.org/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Castle Project Development List" group. 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