Not sure I follow. For all (Http) effects, a VC is just a controller,
with its own name and actions.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Gauthier Segay
<[email protected]> wrote:
> As I understand it, VC with actions sound like a nice way to pack what
> I would have done with VC + dynamic action providers in MR2, which
> incurs declaring the provider on controllers using the VC.
>
> Is my understanding right?
>
> if it's right, how are the actions made accessible through routing?
>
> On Aug 16, 12:05 am, hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Just to be clear on the changes to VC between older MR and MR3:
>>
>> - We (Henry and I) noticed that is fairly common to have VC with
>> "actions", especially when combined with ajax
>> - therefore VC in MR3 is a controller implementing a interface
>> IViewComponent, that defines the default action.
>> - layout wise, they should live in a viewcomponents folder.
>>
>> The principle remains the same, though. Controllers are flat and
>> vertical, hence not composable. ViewComponents is the way to aggregate
>> content/logic within views.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Gauthier Segay
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>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I still haven't check the status of MR3 but I'm used to Spark/MR2 and
>> > ViewComponents (which don't have sibling in MS MVC AFAIK)
>>
>> > Your message makes me wonder if there are changes in VC, but I guess
>> > it's still the nice and plain ones we have in MR2. I've checked
>> > Hammett's post regarding Blade  and could definitely concure with you
>> > Tomek that passing template parts as lambda's is not gonna be simply
>> > transposable to Spark.
>>
>> > That is actually something I've been fighting with Spark, which is
>> > passing parts of templates as expression and I admit I always had to
>> > work around using more verbose.
>>
>> > Spark uses a macro system which are mere functions taking defined set
>> > of parameters, but there is no way to pass macros as macros for say, I
>> > didn't try to "reverse engineer" (looking at generated code or at
>> > Spark source) what would be the actual delegate signature to make this
>> > hack work; but my feeling is that this could be leveraged to wrap
>> > those lambdas as "anonymous" Spark macros.
>>
>> > That "template nesting" ability definitely gives an edge to Blade (pun
>> > not intended), and I'm looking forward so that this get's available in
>> > other view engines as I'd like to stick with Spark which is really
>> > nice in every other aspects.
>>
>> > I'm also curious if it could be baked in spark in a way which remains
>> > agnostic to framework using it as view engine (could work with spark
>> > standalone, MSMVC and MR2 as well), that would be great.
>>
>> > I guess the implementation detail discussion will probably move to
>> > spark group but I'm trying to get the hold of the top level
>> > implications.
>>
>> > Tomek, do you feel the "anonymous macro" idea and some way to declare
>> > macro typed parameters to macros would be a good fit ?
>>
>> > I can also see two issues investigating that way:
>>
>> > * macro have scoping which avoid referencing anything else than
>> > parameters, it doesn't work as a closure, I guess one reason is that
>> > you can define macros outside of the scope to be used at different
>> > places (Hammett, is this possible with Blade? can you define what you
>> > pass to builder.TemplateFormBuilder outside of the call?)
>> > * macro aren't supporting generic type parameters
>>
>> > That lambda syntax definitely gives an edge to Blade (pun not
>> > intended), it will probably open nice possibilities to define view
>> > parts that are generic and extensible without necessarily going with
>> > view component or helpers (if MR3 viewengine infrastructure bakes the
>> > concept of declaring those parametric templates as an abstraction
>> > similar to the concept of VC), I have to grasp what's done with
>> > current helpers a bit more to understand better if it could possibly
>> > fit. That would give another edge to MR3 beside Blade.
>>
>> > On Aug 15, 9:28 pm, Tomek Pluskiewicz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> Regarding View Component sections in Spark.
>>
>> >> Lambdas may tricky with Spark. Most of it's syntax get wrapped in an
>> >> TextWriter#Write call. Even if it parses into a C#, at the moment complex
>> >> anonymous methods will be tricky. I will be looking to resolve this issue
>> >> with Spark's team.
>>
>> >> Anyway I understand that the principle is to pass sections' content 
>> >> template
>> >> to a property and then it would be resolved inside view component's view. 
>> >> Is
>> >> that right?
>>
>> >> Spark tries to get as much XML-like as possible and so, viewcomponents 
>> >> look
>> >> similarilly to the below:
>>
>> >> <SomeComponent SomeProperty="variable">
>> >>    <SomeSection>
>> >>        <td>
>> >>           ${item.Name}
>> >>        </td>
>> >>    </SomeSection>
>> >> </SomeComponent>
>>
>> >> In the way MonoRail 1/2 view component sections were openly declared this
>> >> was easy. With the new ways I guess some plumbing is inevitable ;)
>>
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