What are you referring to here? The only time I mentioned the word migrate
was in relation to the wiki, I do think there is a while bunch of useful
content on there for Windsor and DP.

If you are referring to the YouTrack issues, migrate isn't the word I would
pick. I'm just going to use the special export API to dump the issues as
XML and throw them like source code into a Git repo, not doing anything
with GitHub Issues.

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:23 PM, hammett <hamm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is it really worth to migrate everything? I'd say that if the effort
> is too much, just dont do it.
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Jonathon Rossi <j...@jonorossi.com>
> wrote:
> > Hammett, I'm not sure if you noticed but all of the MonoRail ones are
> > MonoRail 2 not MR3, and they were all logged at least 3 years ago. I
> think
> > all the MR3 ones ended up in GitHub.
> >
> > We all sort of neglected JIRA a bit when we had it and everything came
> over
> > as is into YouTrack and built up. It reminds me of how the old castle
> forum
> > was neglected after we basically used the mailing lists and SO for
> > everything, but weren't clear to users that they shouldn't ask new
> questions
> > there.
> >
> > The plan is definitely to centralise everything we do on GitHub, and
> clean
> > up things that aren't providing value. I've got the web site across to GH
> > pages, we will have all our issues across there soon, and that just
> leaves
> > our wiki which I also plan to migrate.
> >
> > @Hammett and Henry, heads up I'm planning to dump the YouTrack issues and
> > throw them into a GitHub repo so we've got them if we (or our users)
> want to
> > refer to them in the future. I'll put a README on the repo, and would
> like
> > to redirect issues.castleproject.org there, that should be easy to do
> right?
> >
> > OT: the phoenix framework has a lot of similarities to Nancy, however a
> > bunch of interesting looking features, I'll have to take a deeper look to
> > see what they are doing. I'm happy to talk about the other topics you
> > raised, but I want to keep this thread on topic so I can sort these out
> by
> > the end of the week.
> >
> > Jono
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:53 AM, hammett <hamm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yeah, if those PR/patches regarding MR were sent to my email directly,
> >> I would have given them a look, but so far I wasnt even aware of their
> >> existence. If we could centralize things on github, it would be great.
> >>
> >> I just started playing with phoenix today
> >> https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix
> >>
> >> Going a bit offtopic and in a slight rant: I still think there's a big
> >> gap in web frameworks all around (ie not only in the .net world).
> >> There's an impedance mismatch on apps that only expose endpoints and
> >> apps that expose resources/collections/data. An argument can be made
> >> that one can view resources/collections as semantic-less endpoints and
> >> that's fair.
> >>
> >> The issue is that MVC doesnt fit well (no hierarchies). GData and
> >> OData are good formalizations of these, but we still dont have a
> >> programming model that serves this model well. I've attempted to build
> >> one with odata extensions for MR, but it's too overwhelming -- esp
> >> given that OData was engineering based on RDBMS capabilities and
> >> doesnt fit well with aggregate domains and|or document, schemaless
> >> stores.
> >>
> >> That said, I have little incentive to take at stab at this problem in
> >> the .net world. As we all know MS sucks the air of the room with their
> >> offerings, regardless of its merits. The community in general seems to
> >> be content with the status quo, but more importantly, I dont see much
> >> learning opportunities.
> >>
> >> So yes, I can fix bugs thrown at me as long as it doesnt take much of
> >> my time. I'd be way more excited to form study groups or a castle-ext
> >> focused on non-.net stuff :-)
> >>
> >> Thanks Jonathon
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Jonathon Rossi <j...@jonorossi.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hey guys,
> >> >
> >> > tl;dr. do you want any of the remaining issues in YouTrack relogged on
> >> > GitHub? (see link below). If so, please relog them before I close them
> >> > as
> >> > obsolete in a week or so.
> >> >
> >> > I've been cleaning out the old issues logged on YouTrack in bursts
> over
> >> > the
> >> > last few months and have closed a few hundred as obsolete. However,
> I've
> >> > kept a bunch of MonoRail and ActiveRecord ones open that had useful
> >> > patches,
> >> > feature requests and/or were interesting.
> >> >
> >> > The Castle Project isn't what it was back in 2008, and with the advent
> >> > of
> >> > DVCS, foundation like groups like the Apache Foundation, Castle
> Project
> >> > and
> >> > Codehaus are being left behind for less formalised organisation using
> >> > GitHub
> >> > without other complexities for many reasons I don't want to go into.
> >> >
> >> > What is our position on the projects we maintain. Obviously Castle
> Core
> >> > (including DynamicProxy) and Windsor (plus a bunch of the facilities)
> >> > are
> >> > still alive and well maintained. ActiveRecord hasn't seen a lot of
> love
> >> > lately but it still seems somewhat popular, or at least used by folks
> in
> >> > production.
> >> >
> >> > Personally I'm using Nancy for web development and am enjoying that it
> >> > feels
> >> > a lot like a progression of where MonoRail was many years ago. I don't
> >> > have
> >> > a problem closing the rest of the issues and stating clearly that
> these
> >> > two
> >> > projects are now mature and non-longer under active development, i.e.
> >> > we'll
> >> > accept patches and keep them on the CI server but won't be
> contributing
> >> > any
> >> > time unless people step forward. I'd prefer for us as a group to be
> >> > clear to
> >> > users which projects we are going to spend effort on to avoid issues
> >> > like
> >> > this one (https://github.com/castleproject/ActiveRecord/issues/1).
> >> >
> >> > This email is way too long, I know people hate long emails and I
> brought
> >> > up
> >> > a few issues, so lets sort out the first one. If you want to keep any
> of
> >> > these issues current please relog them in GitHub because I'll close
> off
> >> > everything else in a week. Then I'm going to dump a readonly copy of
> the
> >> > YouTrack issues and we'll use GitHub Issues only rather than a mix.
> >> >
> >> > http://issues.castleproject.org/youtrack/issues?q=State%3A+Open
> >> >
> >> > Thanks guys
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