Many thanks, our issues migration is now complete. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Henry Conceição <henry.concei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Done. Sorry for the delay... > > Cheers, > Henry Conceição > > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Jonathon Rossi <j...@jonorossi.com> > wrote: > > Thanks Hammett > > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 6:08 AM, hammett <hamm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Sorry Jono, I'm following up with him. It's a turbulent - but exciting > >> - times ahead for Henry's team, so I'm sure he's very busy. > >> > >> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 1:50 AM, Jonathon Rossi <j...@jonorossi.com> > >> wrote: > >> > Henry, sorry for nagging but have you had a chance to look at changing > >> > the > >> > DNS and adding a sub-domain forward? If you don't have time to do it > at > >> > the > >> > moment an acknowledgement would be great to know it is on your radar. > >> > > >> > Thanks, Jono > >> > > >> > On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Jonathon Rossi <j...@jonorossi.com> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Thanks Hammett, it has been good to knock over a few Castle things > I've > >> >> been meaning to do for quite a while. > >> >> > >> >> @Henry we still need the DNS changed as per my last email. > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 8:40 AM, hammett <hamm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Thanks, Jonathon! > >> >>> > >> >>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Jonathon Rossi <j...@jonorossi.com> > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>> > OK, I've closed the remaining YouTrack issues and relogged a few > of > >> >>> > them in > >> >>> > GitHub. I've exported YouTrack to a pile of XML files and I've > >> >>> > removed > >> >>> > the > >> >>> > custom domain name off our YouTrack instance so you will now no > >> >>> > longer > >> >>> > be > >> >>> > able to get to it. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Henry could you please redirect anything that goes to > >> >>> > http://issues.castleproject.org/* to: > >> >>> > https://github.com/castleproject/castle-youtrack-export > >> >>> > > >> >>> > I'd just redirect everything to the root page, no need to worry > >> >>> > about > >> >>> > any > >> >>> > rewrite rules to transform the URL and everyone will see the > README. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Henry Conceição > >> >>> > <henry.concei...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Yes, the redirect should be easy. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Cheers, > >> >>> >> Henry Conceição > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Jonathon Rossi > >> >>> >> <j...@jonorossi.com> > >> >>> >> wrote: > >> >>> >> > Hammett, I'm not sure if you noticed but all of the MonoRail > ones > >> >>> >> > are > >> >>> >> > MonoRail 2 not MR3, and they were all logged at least 3 years > >> >>> >> > ago. I > >> >>> >> > think > >> >>> >> > all the MR3 ones ended up in GitHub. > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > We all sort of neglected JIRA a bit when we had it and > everything > >> >>> >> > came > >> >>> >> > over > >> >>> >> > as is into YouTrack and built up. It reminds me of how the old > >> >>> >> > castle > >> >>> >> > forum > >> >>> >> > was neglected after we basically used the mailing lists and SO > >> >>> >> > for > >> >>> >> > everything, but weren't clear to users that they shouldn't ask > >> >>> >> > new > >> >>> >> > questions > >> >>> >> > there. > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > The plan is definitely to centralise everything we do on > GitHub, > >> >>> >> > and > >> >>> >> > clean > >> >>> >> > up things that aren't providing value. I've got the web site > >> >>> >> > across > >> >>> >> > to > >> >>> >> > GH > >> >>> >> > pages, we will have all our issues across there soon, and that > >> >>> >> > just > >> >>> >> > leaves > >> >>> >> > our wiki which I also plan to migrate. > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > @Hammett and Henry, heads up I'm planning to dump the YouTrack > >> >>> >> > issues > >> >>> >> > and > >> >>> >> > throw them into a GitHub repo so we've got them if we (or our > >> >>> >> > users) > >> >>> >> > want to > >> >>> >> > refer to them in the future. I'll put a README on the repo, and > >> >>> >> > would > >> >>> >> > like > >> >>> >> > to redirect issues.castleproject.org there, that should be > easy > >> >>> >> > to > >> >>> >> > do > >> >>> >> > right? > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > OT: the phoenix framework has a lot of similarities to Nancy, > >> >>> >> > however a > >> >>> >> > bunch of interesting looking features, I'll have to take a > deeper > >> >>> >> > look > >> >>> >> > to > >> >>> >> > see what they are doing. I'm happy to talk about the other > topics > >> >>> >> > you > >> >>> >> > raised, but I want to keep this thread on topic so I can sort > >> >>> >> > these > >> >>> >> > out > >> >>> >> > by > >> >>> >> > the end of the week. > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > Jono > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:53 AM, hammett <hamm...@gmail.com> > >> >>> >> > wrote: > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> Yeah, if those PR/patches regarding MR were sent to my email > >> >>> >> >> directly, > >> >>> >> >> I would have given them a look, but so far I wasnt even aware > of > >> >>> >> >> their > >> >>> >> >> existence. If we could centralize things on github, it would > be > >> >>> >> >> great. > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> I just started playing with phoenix today > >> >>> >> >> https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> Going a bit offtopic and in a slight rant: I still think > there's > >> >>> >> >> a > >> >>> >> >> big > >> >>> >> >> gap in web frameworks all around (ie not only in the .net > >> >>> >> >> world). > >> >>> >> >> There's an impedance mismatch on apps that only expose > endpoints > >> >>> >> >> and > >> >>> >> >> apps that expose resources/collections/data. An argument can > be > >> >>> >> >> made > >> >>> >> >> that one can view resources/collections as semantic-less > >> >>> >> >> endpoints > >> >>> >> >> and > >> >>> >> >> that's fair. > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> The issue is that MVC doesnt fit well (no hierarchies). GData > >> >>> >> >> and > >> >>> >> >> OData are good formalizations of these, but we still dont > have a > >> >>> >> >> programming model that serves this model well. I've attempted > to > >> >>> >> >> build > >> >>> >> >> one with odata extensions for MR, but it's too overwhelming -- > >> >>> >> >> esp > >> >>> >> >> given that OData was engineering based on RDBMS capabilities > and > >> >>> >> >> doesnt fit well with aggregate domains and|or document, > >> >>> >> >> schemaless > >> >>> >> >> stores. > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> That said, I have little incentive to take at stab at this > >> >>> >> >> problem > >> >>> >> >> in > >> >>> >> >> the .net world. As we all know MS sucks the air of the room > with > >> >>> >> >> their > >> >>> >> >> offerings, regardless of its merits. The community in general > >> >>> >> >> seems > >> >>> >> >> to > >> >>> >> >> be content with the status quo, but more importantly, I dont > see > >> >>> >> >> much > >> >>> >> >> learning opportunities. > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> So yes, I can fix bugs thrown at me as long as it doesnt take > >> >>> >> >> much > >> >>> >> >> of > >> >>> >> >> my time. I'd be way more excited to form study groups or a > >> >>> >> >> castle-ext > >> >>> >> >> focused on non-.net stuff :-) > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> Thanks Jonathon > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Jonathon Rossi > >> >>> >> >> <j...@jonorossi.com> > >> >>> >> >> wrote: > >> >>> >> >> > Hey guys, > >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > tl;dr. do you want any of the remaining issues in YouTrack > >> >>> >> >> > relogged > >> >>> >> >> > on > >> >>> >> >> > GitHub? (see link below). If so, please relog them before I > >> >>> >> >> > close > >> >>> >> >> > them > >> >>> >> >> > as > >> >>> >> >> > obsolete in a week or so. > >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > I've been cleaning out the old issues logged on YouTrack in > >> >>> >> >> > bursts > >> >>> >> >> > over > >> >>> >> >> > the > >> >>> >> >> > last few months and have closed a few hundred as obsolete. > >> >>> >> >> > However, > >> >>> >> >> > I've > >> >>> >> >> > kept a bunch of MonoRail and ActiveRecord ones open that had > >> >>> >> >> > useful > >> >>> >> >> > patches, > >> >>> >> >> > feature requests and/or were interesting. > >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > The Castle Project isn't what it was back in 2008, and with > >> >>> >> >> > the > >> >>> >> >> > advent > >> >>> >> >> > of > >> >>> >> >> > DVCS, foundation like groups like the Apache Foundation, > >> >>> >> >> > Castle > >> >>> >> >> > Project > >> >>> >> >> > and > >> >>> >> >> > Codehaus are being left behind for less formalised > >> >>> >> >> > organisation > >> >>> >> >> > using > >> >>> >> >> > GitHub > >> >>> >> >> > without other complexities for many reasons I don't want to > go > >> >>> >> >> > into. > >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > What is our position on the projects we maintain. Obviously > >> >>> >> >> > Castle > >> >>> >> >> > Core > >> >>> >> >> > (including DynamicProxy) and Windsor (plus a bunch of the > >> >>> >> >> > facilities) > >> >>> >> >> > are > >> >>> >> >> > still alive and well maintained. ActiveRecord hasn't seen a > >> >>> >> >> > lot > >> >>> >> >> > of > >> >>> >> >> > love > >> >>> >> >> > lately but it still seems somewhat popular, or at least used > >> >>> >> >> > by > >> >>> >> >> > folks > >> >>> >> >> > in > >> >>> >> >> > production. > >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > Personally I'm using Nancy for web development and am > enjoying > >> >>> >> >> > that > >> >>> >> >> > it > >> >>> >> >> > feels > >> >>> >> >> > a lot like a progression of where MonoRail was many years > ago. > >> >>> >> >> > I > >> >>> >> >> > don't > >> >>> >> >> > have > >> >>> >> >> > a problem closing the rest of the issues and stating clearly > >> >>> >> >> > that > >> >>> >> >> > these > >> >>> >> >> > two > >> >>> >> >> > projects are now mature and non-longer under active > >> >>> >> >> > development, > >> >>> >> >> > i.e. > >> >>> >> >> > we'll > >> >>> >> >> > accept patches and keep them on the CI server but won't be > >> >>> >> >> > contributing > >> >>> >> >> > any > >> >>> >> >> > time unless people step forward. I'd prefer for us as a > group > >> >>> >> >> > to > >> >>> >> >> > be > >> >>> >> >> > clear to > >> >>> >> >> > users which projects we are going to spend effort on to > avoid > >> >>> >> >> > issues > >> >>> >> >> > like > >> >>> >> >> > this one > >> >>> >> >> > (https://github.com/castleproject/ActiveRecord/issues/1). > >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > This email is way too long, I know people hate long emails > and > >> >>> >> >> > I > >> >>> >> >> > brought > >> >>> >> >> > up > >> >>> >> >> > a few issues, so lets sort out the first one. If you want to > >> >>> >> >> > keep > >> >>> >> >> > any > >> >>> >> >> > of > >> >>> >> >> > these issues current please relog them in GitHub because > I'll > >> >>> >> >> > close > >> >>> >> >> > off > >> >>> >> >> > everything else in a week. Then I'm going to dump a readonly > >> >>> >> >> > copy > >> >>> >> >> > of > >> >>> >> >> > the > >> >>> >> >> > YouTrack issues and we'll use GitHub Issues only rather > than a > >> >>> >> >> > mix. > >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > > http://issues.castleproject.org/youtrack/issues?q=State%3A+Open > >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > Thanks guys > >> >>> >> >> > -- > >> >>> >> >> > Jono > >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > -- > >> >>> >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >> >>> >> >> > Google > >> >>> >> >> > Groups > >> >>> >> >> > "Castle Project Development List" group. > >> >>> >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > from > >> >>> >> >> > it, > >> >>> >> >> > send > >> >>> >> >> > an > >> >>> >> >> > email to castle-project-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> >>> >> >> > To post to this group, send email to > >> >>> >> >> > castle-project-devel@googlegroups.com. > >> >>> >> >> > Visit this group at > >> 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