I like HQL much better than Criteria, despite of the missing IntelliSense.
HQL is more powerful in regard to joins (Criteria cannot join on unrelated
entities) and gives a more compact and concise view of the actual query.
Only when I had to dynamically build query strings, I use Criteria instead.
-Markus

2009/6/17 csharp <[email protected]>

>
> I have set lazy=false as well, both on classes and collection
> properties.
>
> with my model, when i load a root 99% of the time i will be using
> every object under the root, so I want to make it as optimized as
> possible knowing i will be using the objects.
>
> it looks like detached criteria is the way to go.  I believe i read
> that HQL came after criteria queries and is the preferred way to do
> things.
>
> i also may have misquoted above, according to
> https://www.hibernate.org/315.html
> "HQL queries do not respect any fetch="join" defined in the mapping
> document"
>
> I use fetch="select" though, so it looks like HQL queries would be
> sufficient.
>
> Thanks Markus for answering both my posts :)
>
>
> On Jun 17, 10:15 am, Markus Zywitza <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The FetchEnum just specifies how it is loaded, not when. For this you
> should
> > set lazy=false for all entities within the aggregate. With FetchEnum, you
> > just influence the SQL created by NHibernate, which should be irrelevant
> to
> > the model.
> >
> > -Markus
> >
> > 2009/6/17 csharp <[email protected]>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I am doing it this way because I am using DDD principles.  I choose to
> > > load my entire aggregate root at once, just a personal preference.
> >
> > > On Jun 17, 2:20 am, Markus Zywitza <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > To be honest, I'm using AR now for 3 years, but I never specified the
> > > Fetch
> > > > property on any of my collections. To me, it smells a bit like
> premature
> > > > optimization. If you worry on performance, you should rather be picky
> > > about
> > > > when to use lazy loading and when not to use it (n+1). This can be
> done
> > > both
> > > > in HQL and Criteria.
> >
> > > > As for DetachedCriteria:
> >
> > > > ActiveRecordMediator<T> has overloads of FindAll, FindFirst and
> FineOne
> > > > taking DetachedCriteria.
> > > > -Markus
> >
> > > > 2009/6/17 csharp <[email protected]>
> >
> > > > > I do not want to use HQL as I read that it does not respect the
> > > > > FetchEnum I specify in the property attributes.
> >
> > > > > to query an association - random example :
> >
> > > > > class car
> > > > >  -engine
> > > > >  -transmission
> > > > >  -numberOfWheels
> > > > >  -etc
> >
> > > > > class engine
> > > > >  -number of cylinders
> >
> > > > > class transmission
> > > > >  -auto?
> > > > >  -type
> >
> > > > > I read that it looks like using detached criteria is the
> recommended
> > > > > approach to query properties of the engine object inside the car
> > > > > object, yet Hibernate's docs say this about detached criteria:
> >
> > > > > The DetachedCriteria class lets you create a query outside the
> scope
> > > > > of a session, and then later execute it using some arbitrary
> Session.
> >
> > > > > Also, they have a specific section regarding querying associations:
> >
> > > > >
> http://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/stable/core/reference/en/html/querycr.
> > > ..
> >
> > > > > Does Castle have a way to query associations using ICriterion?
> >
> > > > > Alternatively, did i misread that HQL does not respect the
> FetchEnum I
> > > > > specify in the property attributes
> >
> > > > > I don't mind one way or another, just wanted to see what the pros
> and
> > > > > cons were. Does HQL introduce any limitations at all?- Hide quoted
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> > > -
> >
> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
> >
>

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