Actually the reason I only use the one hose is because there is just barely enough room to get a 1 inch hose under the cabin sole – and that required some surgery – and a lot of colorful words to get it snaked through.  When I got the boat there was only a 5/8 inch hose down into the bilge..  The original Gusher intake hose stopped under the engine and there was a reduction fitting where the hose from the bilge was connected.   Based on the looks of the hole from the engine compartment through the liner it almost looks like this was an after thought.   I think there is a certain amount of “builder’s personalization” that comes into play when these boats get built – might depend on what shift does what - I’ve don’t think I’ve ever actually seen two of the same model that had everything done exactly the same.

Dave –  

C27 #5212

Windabout

Cape Cod, MA

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ahoyther
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Installing an automatic bilge pump while keeping the manual one operational

 

Let me add to Phil's note that I think the safer course is to use two hoses (yes, they will fit below and between the engine mounts (frames) although they might be a shade tight) and under the cabin sole.   As I recall, and I'm not able to verify at the moment, the Gusher pump is using a 1" or 1-1/4" and I think the Rule may use a 3/4", whatever is specified.  For the cost of a length of hose it isn't worth gambling that something might not get into the Gusher when you really might have to use it, in spite of the Rule having a pretty good screen.

Dave Hoy
WYANOKEE #6295
Camden, Maine

Phil Agur wrote:

Dave,

 

Hmm… I was going to say you just can’t mix a centrifugal “Rule” with a diaphragm pump effectively but, I don’t see much wrong, if anything; with blowing water through the poppet vales on the manual pump.

 

Maybe you should take an extra precaution to keep debris from entering the Rule (which doesn’t normally care about debris) because the manual pump will be quietly disabled if any debris lodges in the valves while passing through it.

 

Phil Agur                    s/v Wing Tip

Commodore,             Call Sign WCW3485

IC27/270A                   MMSI 366901790

www.catalina27.org      Vessel Doc# 1039809

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of DaveBreski
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 5:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Installing an automatic bilge pump while keeping the manual one operational

 

Ted –

I just attached the electric bilge pump on the end of the hose in the bilge that goes to the manual pump – works just fine for me.  I can still pump out using the manual pump and when the electric one runs it just goes through the manual pump.

 

Dave

C27 #5212

Windabout

Cape Cod, MA

http://dpbcc.home.comcast.net


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ted glynn
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 8:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: catalina27-talk: Installing an automatic bilge pump while keeping the manual one operational

 

I'm looking for advice on how to install an automatic bilge pump on my 82 Catalina 27. I'm still a new sailboater, having had mine less than 2 years now, so please forgive me if I use the wrong terms or don't explain it well.

 

My bilge is very dry and clean, but I worry about a leak when I'm not around, so would like to have the automatic bilge on "stand by" when I'm gone. I bought a Rule-Mate 500 automated bilge pump and 3-way lighted panel switch. I think I can figure out the electrical part ok.

 

 My first though was that I could use the same hose from the bilge that leads to the manual bilge pump in the compartment aft of the tiller and somehow, via a system of Y or T fittings and check valves, use the same thru-hull on the transom (which is above the water line). In other words, both manual and automatic bilge pumps would be operational (sort of "in parallel"), using largely the same hoses and thru-hull.

 

My first choice would be to run a second hose out the aft of my bilge, and have a totally redundant hose system, but there doesn't seem to be much room for it. I also know check-valves can be trouble if they fail.

 

I've kicked it around with other sailboaters on my dock without complete agreement on whether it would work, or would one siphon the other, etc.

 

Any advice, pictures, diagrams, etc. would be appreciated.

 

Ted Glynn

Rayo de Luna

1982 Catalina 27 standard rig

Jefferson Beach Marina, St. Clair Shores, MI

 

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