RE: catalina27-talk: Glow Plug relay test

windabout Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:01:44 -0700

I don't know Phil - I'm a little disappointed I noticed you've got some 
corrosive ugliness going on there - nice shield over the gauges - add on or 
OEM?  does it flip up out of the way?


--
Dave - yeah I know I should be working but its Friday 
C27 #5212
Windabout
Cape Cod
http://dpbcc.home.comcast.net

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Phil Agur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Craig,
> 
>  
> 
> Here's what I found on WING TIP this morning.
> 
>  
> 
> My panel looks like:
> 
> http://www.cuttergraphics.com/images/C270-PERKIN%20M20%20Panel.jpg 
> 
>  
> 
> My Glow plug relay (made by Lucas) looks like:
> 
> http://www.cuttergraphics.com/images/C270-PERKIN%20M20%20Glow%20Relay.jpg 
> 
>  
> 
> The connections at the harness block are (I think):
> 
> http://www.cuttergraphics.com/images/C270-Engine%20Harness%20Block.jpg
> 
>  
> 
> The factory manual disagrees with what I have at the engine block terminal
> strip so I recorded all the color coded connections years ago so I could fix
> any wires that might come loose.
> 
>  
> 
> Let me know if you have differences.
> 
>  
> 
> Phil Agur                    s/v Wing Tip
> 
> Commodore,             Call Sign WCW3485
> 
> IC27/270A                   MMSI 366901790 
> 
>  <http://www.catalina27.org> www.catalina27.org      Vessel Doc# 1039809
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 5:54 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Glow Plug relay test
> 
>  
> 
> Hi Phil:
> 
>  
> 
> My sail number is 62.  Thanks for all your helpful information!  I'll check
> the vent loop and see if that is my culprit causing all the water!
> 
>  
> 
> Craig
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: Phil Agur <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> 
> To: [email protected] 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 7:07 PM
> 
> Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Glow Plug relay test
> 
>  
> 
> Craig,
> 
>  
> 
> What's your sail number?
> 
>  
> 
> The switch is normally 3 positions. Off, Run, and Light the glow plugs. The
> starter is energized by pushing a button.
> 
>  
> 
> From the sail number or the hull number on your documentation we can ask the
> factory if there was a difference between my panel and yours when it left
> the factory.
> 
>  
> 
> Phil Agur                    s/v Wing Tip C270 #184
> 
> Commodore,             Call Sign WCW3485
> 
> IC27/270A                   MMSI 366901790 
> 
>  <http://www.catalina27.org> www.catalina27.org      Vessel Doc# 1039809
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:20 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: catalina27-talk: Glow Plug relay test
> 
>  
> 
> I am still trying to figure out how to get the glow plugs working in my
> Perkins M20 Perama.  Since this is a new boat to me, maybe I am doing
> something wrong and don't realize it.  The key switch has 4 positions.  In
> the third (run) position, the engine low oil pressure and battery discharge
> lights come on and the blower works, etc.  I was initially thinking this
> position would also activate the glow plugs, but then as I thought about it,
> the plugs would be activated all the time the engine was running which
> doesn't make sense.  The 4th position is to engage the starter.  When in the
> run position, I have 12V on the brown feed wire to the glow plug relay, but
> nothing to the wire which runs from the relay to the glow plugs.  What
> switch position is designed to activate the glow plugs?  How do I check to
> ensure the relay is working ok?  What voltage should be sent to the plugs?
> On other boats I had a separate glow plug switch apart from the starter
> button.  This is driving me crazy.  AARRGHH!
> 
>  
> 
> Any help is appreciated.
> 
>  
> 
> Craig
> 
>

--- Begin Message ---

Craig,

Here’s what I found on WING TIP this morning.

My panel looks like:

http://www.cuttergraphics.com/images/C270-PERKIN%20M20%20Panel.jpg

My Glow plug relay (made by Lucas) looks like:

http://www.cuttergraphics.com/images/C270-PERKIN%20M20%20Glow%20Relay.jpg

The connections at the harness block are (I think):

http://www.cuttergraphics.com/images/C270-Engine%20Harness%20Block.jpg

The factory manual disagrees with what I have at the engine block terminal strip so I recorded all the color coded connections years ago so I could fix any wires that might come loose.

Let me know if you have differences.

Phil Agur                   s/v Wing Tip

Commodore,             Call Sign WCW3485

IC27/270A                   MMSI 366901790

www.catalina27.org      Vessel Doc# 1039809

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 5:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Glow Plug relay test

Hi Phil:

My sail number is 62. Thanks for all your helpful information! I'll check the vent loop and see if that is my culprit causing all the water!

Craig

----- Original Message -----

From: Phil Agur

To: [email protected]

Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 7:07 PM

Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Glow Plug relay test

Craig,

What’s your sail number?

The switch is normally 3 positions. Off, Run, and Light the glow plugs. The starter is energized by pushing a button.

From the sail number or the hull number on your documentation we can ask the factory if there was a difference between my panel and yours when it left the factory.

Phil Agur                   s/v Wing Tip C270 #184

Commodore,             Call Sign WCW3485

IC27/270A                   MMSI 366901790

www.catalina27.org      Vessel Doc# 1039809

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: catalina27-talk: Glow Plug relay test

I am still trying to figure out how to get the glow plugs working in my Perkins M20 Perama. Since this is a new boat to me, maybe I am doing something wrong and don't realize it. The key switch has 4 positions. In the third (run) position, the engine low oil pressure and battery discharge lights come on and the blower works, etc. I was initially thinking this position would also activate the glow plugs, but then as I thought about it, the plugs would be activated all the time the engine was running which doesn't make sense. The 4th position is to engage the starter. When in the run position, I have 12V on the brown feed wire to the glow plug relay, but nothing to the wire which runs from the relay to the glow plugs. What switch position is designed to activate the glow plugs? How do I check to ensure the relay is working ok? What voltage should be sent to the plugs? On other boats I had a separate glow plug switch apart from the starter button. This is driving me crazy. AARRGHH!

Any help is appreciated.

Craig

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RE: catalina27-talk: Glow Plug relay test

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