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I would certainly agree with Dave that a boat
sailed in fresh water and put away in covered, heated storage for the winter
will enjoy a much longer rigging life than boats (like mine) that are in
salt water year-round.
If you think the rigging looks good, and your
boatyard says it looks great, it probably is!
Doug
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Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Lower
shroud eyebolts
Pat,
Your in fresh water and if the boat has been
covered and particularly if stored inside, after inspecting all of your shroud
swages and fittings and assured yourself that they look good, no rusting or
signs of deterioration, I would recommend that you put off replacing the
rigging and go with what the yard workers told you. You might want to
have a recognized surveyor look it over. Mine, I believe, are twenty
years old but I store inside and I inspect regularly and something may go
tomorrow but I'm content to let it go.
Dave Hoy
WYANOKEE
#6295
Camden, Maine
Patrick R Ford wrote:
Doug,
Thanks for your thoughts. I suppose I'm
looking for reassurance
that I don't need to replace them. It's
justs that everything looks
so nice and new and tight etc,
etc. I hate to disrupt all
that.
I bought it 3 years ago. Every winter I
think of replacing all the rigging.just
because of the age factor
My Marine facility that hauls and launches her
said I would be wasting my time and money." Everything looks great
"
But our lister opinion is quite
different
I bought Seabiscuit from the original owner,
it's first 20 + years
it was winter stored heated indoors. My
slip is on west shore of Lake Michigan, winds at or near 20 kts is very
rare. We get excited if it's in the teens.
??????
Thanks again
Pat Ford
Seabiscuit C27 3692
Port Washington, WI
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Original Message -----
Sent:
Monday, June 12, 2006 1:19 PM
Subject:
catalina27-talk: Lower shroud eyebolts
Pat,
Other folks who have been on the list longer
than I have can give you a better idea about how common it is for
the original eyebolts to fail. (Anyone??)
I think part of the problem is, like with the
spreader brackets, that there's no easy way to tell if a particular
boat has a problem.
I talked to a Catalina Yachts factory tech
about this, and was told the upgrade was made available because of a
history of two problems: failure of the original eyebolts, and excessive
flexing of the deck underneath the bolt. The U-bolt upgrade kit
includes a larger backing plate to help with the second
problem.
But there are probably still lots of boats
sailing with the original equipment, with no problems. If your deck
seems solid, you may not have a problem, either. The guy across the
dock from me has raced his hard for almost 30 years, and says the only
piece of original hardware that's ever failed was one of the old threaded toggle nuts on a shroud barrel
bolt. But then he's the original owner AND a professional
rigger, so I'm thinking his boat has had better routine
maintenance than a lot of the older C-27s. And maybe he's just
been lucky.
I upgraded mine for the peace of mind.
Knowing that there have been enough failures to convince the factory to
issue an upgrade kit, I just didn't want to have to worry about
it.
Doug
Simonsen
Kiwi,
C27 #1522
Anacortes
WA
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Original Message -----
Sent:
Monday, June 12, 2006 9:21 AM
Subject:
Re: catalina27-talk: spreader brackets
Doug,
Looks like I have the original eyebolts.
They are solid, I don't
believe they have ever leaked, on deck and
under is solid.
It seems shame to R & R them ? Are
they unsafe because
of age ? Built in 1978, in the water July
1979
Pat
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Original Message -----
Sent:
Saturday, June 10, 2006 12:41 AM
Subject:
Re: catalina27-talk: spreader brackets
Pat,
The old 3/8" eyebolts apparently would
twist under load and break the seal to the deck. Water would
leak in, causing rot in the deck core and crevice corrosion in the
eyebolt.
The U-bolt kit solves the twisting
problem, and provides a much stronger attachment point. I found
them really simple to install. The inboard leg of the U-bolt
goes through the original hole. Drop a bolt through the inboard
hole on the backing plate into the old eyebolt hole, mark where
the outboard hole falls, and drill.
All the usual advice about bedding deck
hardware applies, of course: use liquid epoxy to seal the
core around the hole, and bedding compound to seal the U-bolt flange
to the deck. Even so, it was a snap. Since the U-bolts
don't twist in the hole, you don't even need a helper out on deck to
hold the bolt while you're inside tightening the
nut.
Doug Simonsen
Kiwi, C27
#1522
Anacortes
WA
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Original Message -----
Sent:
Friday, June 09, 2006 10:30 AM
Subject:
Re: catalina27-talk: spreader brackets
Doug,
I replaced my spreader brackets but
shroud eyebolts ??
What do the old ( not good ) ones look
like. I bot it from the original owner 3 years ago ( 3692 ). I would
like to know if I
have good ones.
Thanks
Pat Ford # 3692
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Original Message -----
Sent:
Friday, June 09, 2006 2:03 AM
Subject:
Re: catalina27-talk: spreader brackets
I have extras of BOTH the
stainless steel spreader socket kit AND the lower shroud
chainplate U-bolt retrofit kit.
(Short version of long
story: I ordered them from both CY and Catalina
Direct when both places were out of stock; ended up with two sets,
used one, never got around to returning the
others).
I'd be glad to pass them on at
a 10% discount plus shipping -- contact me off list if
interested.
Doug
Simonsen
Kiwi, C27
#1522
Anacortes
WA
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Original Message -----
Sent:
Thursday, June 08, 2006 7:37 AM
Subject:
catalina27-talk: spreader brackets
Hello, I have recently been told
that my 30 year old original C-27 alluminum spreader
brackets have been known to fail, is this something I should
replace? and if so with what? steel or stainless steel? I
realize steel would have to be painted. Thanks in advance, Mike
Andrews C-27 hull# 1801 Runaground
Sue.
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