Let me try that again . . . must have been the wine. I used the old upper shrouds (3/16) to replace the existing and original 3/16 lifelines. Lifelines will never, not (almost) ever, undergo the stresses that shrouds (stays) withstand so if they were good enough to still hold the mast up, they are good enough to use as lifelines.

I then left the turnbuckle end on and had the shroud cut to length, including the eye to be crimped on, to match the old lifeline (with those old, cracked plastic covers.). On Leucothea I replaced the gate stanchion with those from a C30 (with the front brace (duel base) and requires adapting shims to account for deck pitch difference in the two models.) This makes a super- strong system. The eye crimped on is to accept the pelican hook from the original gates, which I simply kept, stripped of the old plastic, and replace with new. On my double line system I only use the top gate anyway. So the only line I have plastic on is the gate, and that is only because I hang my arm from it a lot.

All my wire: shrouds, stays and lifelines - lowers and uppers - are now a uniform 3/16. Makes it a lot easier for parts, quick fixes, adjustments, etc. And when I did the stay replacement I went to open turnbuckles as well.

Hope that helps.

Gary



I used the old upper lines to make new life lines. All I had to do was put new ends on one (the gate end) the accept the pelican hook. The (old) upper shrouds were 3/16. I did not put covers on them.

I replaced all (upper and lower) with 3/16 wire to standardize things as well as add strength. Thus, I ended up with basically new everything and it looks great and functions awesomely. All for less than $500.

Gary
Leucothea, still on the North Coast.


Thanks, Tim, for not going there. I've never known you to start a controversy, and would hate to see you start.

I'm actually kinda torn myself--I'd like to keep the feel of stainless, but I don't want the vinyl covers because it looks like clothesline--old, dingy, faded clothesline eventually. And I figure I could splice my own instead of having to pay a rigger if I went high-tech line. But... would I feel as secure? Sure, the high-tech line is stronger. Would it FEEL stronger? Would my passengers believe it?

Wonderingly,
David Shaddock
Pixie, '77/07 traditional interior/standard rig/hybrid power/wheel/bare stanchions for now

----- Original Message -----
From: tim ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, January 9, 2007 11:27
Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Question re OEM Lifelines
To: [email protected]

 > back in the old days, we used to have fun, protracted
 > arguments about the wisdom of replacing wire lifelines with
 > high tech line.
 >
 > I stood on the side that said: high tech line  is okay
 > if you inspect it regularly. the thinking was, in some
 > ways it might be safer because very few folks ever look at
 > the wire under those vinyl covers.
 >
 > but I wont start that argument.
 >
 > I wont go there.
 >
 > --tf
 >    staying right here, thanks
 >
 >

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