In a message dated 5/31/2007 3:19:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
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I only know of 2 Catalina owners that attempted  trying to "tighten" keel 
bolts.
Neither finished or were able to tighten or  move the nuts. Tap the top of the
bolts with a small steel hammer. They will  "ping". Even if you have one that 
soundsl
like wood, leave them alone. If you have a crack  in the keel that is 1/2 
inch wide
that is another story. 
When I first got my boat I asked a couple of "  Catalina guys " I asked how 
to tighten the keel bolts. They both  said --- Don't touch them !
Pat Ford 
Seabiscuit 3692
Port Washington, WI

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I guess the question is why?   Is your keel loose? Can you  stick your head 
inside the catalina smile? Or just because you can? I've  been sailing for more 
years than I'll admit to and the only time I've ever  seen a keel even come 
close to coming off is when a buddy of mine hit a rock  at full speed in a J22 
- I'm not sure that anything aside of an imbedded  Ibeam would have helped 
that though  
 
But if you gotta cut I think I'd use a sawzall with a long blade,  You'll 
probably want to drill a starter hole so you can start the blade  easier - my 
guess is you'd want the blade long enough to go through the  fiberglass and 
allow 
you to rest the heal of the saw on the cabin floor so  you have some support 
for it as you cut.  The other alternative would  be to drill a series of holes 
around the perimiter and than use a chisel to  free it up.  
 
Seems to me if the wood is totally gone that you could drill a few  holes - 
attach a strong vacuum and suck out anything that isn't attached  along with 
any water and then start pumping in penetrating epoxy  and  use the vacuum to 
help draw it through the space then plug the holes up with  filler. Still seems 
like an awful lot of work that may just be  unnecessary.  
 
Dave - if it ain't broke 
C27 #5212 
Windabout 
Cape Cod  
http://dpbcc.home.comcast.net
 

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From: "Doug Simonsen"  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I have been wanting to do this,  too  Phillip -- but I haven't ever figured 
out what king of a  cutting tool would be good for slicing through the 
fiberglass in the  narrow space between the keel bolts and bilge wall.  My 
boatyard 
was  reluctant to even get involved in this project.  I'm hoping for a  
brainstorm that will allow me to minimize the curses per minute when I  finally 
tackle 
it.  
 
I'd love to hear what your thoughts are on  how to do the cutting, and, like 
you, would be glad to hear from anyone  who has actually done it.
 
Doug Simonsen
Kiwi C-27 #1522
 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:19  PM
Subject:  catalina27-talk:keel



> 
> Hi everyone
> 
> been enjoying  sitting back taking in the wisdom. Last year got myself a 
1975 
>  cat27. Love it. new to the sailing thing. The only sail boat I have been  
on 
> is my own. I am in east Sooke, vancouver island B.C. Sailed  for 2 weeks 
last 
> year over to the Gulf Islands. Had a great time.  Obviously, learning lots 
of 
> cool new stuff.
> 
>  anyway got the keel plywood removal and relaminated diagram. Gonna try  it.
> has anyone out there done this repair?
> 
>  
> Phillip Day
> Crystal Raven
> #2549
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Re: Tightening keel bolts.  Five years ago when I purchased Escapade  it had 
a smile.  After it was placed in a cradle for the winter and resting  on its 
keel.  I purchased a torque wrench and a deep socket of the proper  size.  I 
tightened the six nuts to the desired setting (do not  remember).  I knew if 
one 
broke I would need to replace with lag  crews.  But they did not break.  The 
bolts were stainless and not  corroded.  I then cleaned and patched the 
superficial cracks in the bilge  with epoxy.   The next job was to repair the 
smile. 
 The crack  was sanded three to four inches on each side to a slight depth.  
Two/three  layers of glass were separately laid in and after it cured, a 
filler/epoxy was  used to fare out the area.  Had no problems since.  I think 
the 
source  of my information to do this job was from Dr. Judy's site 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  .  Will have  to admit I am sure 
I 
did not follow all the steps that she outlined but my job  was sufficient. 
 
Hope this helps.   
 
John  Jennings
s/v Escapade 
83 C-27, 5267 
Standard/Dinette
I/B Diesel,  5411
Middle River,  MD
www.catalina27fleet19.com



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