MessageHaving worked for a builder who shipped several boats by truck and
having worked in a boatyard where boats were picked up and delivered by truck
on a regular basis.
All the drivers would closely monitor the loading to make sure there were no
potential problems because once they "crossed the curb" they were responsible.
I would suggest that, unless you signed a document specifically absolving the
trucking co. from responsibility, get a lawyer, he has (or should have)
insurance!
Damage to the keel sump area will cause most insurance co.'s to total the boat
due to the liabilities involved. If the repair does not hold and the boat sinks
and takes you and your family with it, whether the repair was responsible or
not, they look at buying you a new boat as cheap.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 4:58 PM
Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Perplexing keel problem after long distance
hauling
Listees,
I want to thank all of you for your thoughts regarding my keel problem. The
damage to my boat was certainly caused by the hauler, although he claims that
once a boat is lashed down on the flatbed, it cannot move, not even the
slightest, so therefore he is not responsible for anything that happened. It
doesn't seem like he has a good sense of physics. He blames any problems either
on those who put the boat on the trailer or on those who removed it. He wants
to claim that he has no responsibility or control over loading or unloading,
but this makes no sense whatsoever. Is there anyone out there with a sense of
how this works?
I was able to take some of the pressure off the aft end of the keel today by
lifting it some on the stands. The keel is only blocked on the extreme forward
end now. As a result the crack is a bit wider.
thanks, all,
Jon
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of michael mcvey
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 2:24 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Perplexing keel problem after long distance
hauling
Sorry I did not read the full post before, I would not attempt anymore
repairs until I spoke with my insurance agent and a surveyor or a qualified
boat yard with a good rep. from what I have read in the other posts you have
received some real good advice and for the hull to crack like that there is
most likely something that is hidden. I am very practiced with fiberglass
repair and this sound to be a little tough. >From all accounts though this does
sound as if the hauler is solely responsible for the damage and I would be in
touch with whoever takes their claims. Best of luck
Mike M
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: catalina27-talk: Perplexing keel problem after long distance
hauling
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 22:56:29 -0400
Listees:
I have a serious but perplexing problem resulting from the long-distance
haul of my 1975 C-27. I need your advice.
The boat was hauled from North Carolina to Boston in mid-July,
essentially a return home for the boat and for us. Somewhere along the way the
boat was damaged. When the boat arrived it was lifted off the flatbed and put
in the water. It immediately began to take on water--lots of it. After taking
it out of the water, we discovered a crack at the extreme aft end of the keel
at the hull (at the point where the hull begins to curve down to shape the
narrow end of the keel--perhaps an inch or two down that curve). The crack was
only several inches long around that aft end, perhaps four inches long in all,
sort of shaped like a "u". The leak showed at the inside at the extreme aft end
of the bilge in the passage (under the interior deck) between it and the engine
compartment (boat has an A-4). While the pump kept on top of the leak, it did
so only barely.
A few words about the delivery: The boat had been located on the extreme
aft end of the trailer. A power boat was placed on the front. The inside of the
boat was an absolute mess. Things that I had carefully stowed were strewn about
the boat. Items stowed deep in the after quarter berth were all over the salon
floor in the forward part of the boat. It was an amazing sight that got worse
when the water seeped up from the bilge. Clearly the boat had a very rough trip.
When the boat was first on stands, I was able to ply out some resin from
the hull crack and thought maybe I could make a temporary patch to get it
across Dorchester Bay to my yacht club. I used Marine Tex. The fix looked good,
but as soon as the hydraulic trailer begin to lift it from the stands and
blocks, it cracked with a "snap." It had returned. After a short haul on a
hydraulic trailer to the club, I removed the broken Marine Tex, opened the
crack up as best I could, and we used West (resin, filler) and some cloth and
fashioned a repair. When it was sealed on the outside, using a flashlight, I
was able to locate what seemed to be a crack of sorts in the bilge in that
passage leading to the engine compartment, where it seemed the water had come
in. I poured resin into it, hoping it would seep down.
Today, when we lifted the boat off the stands to put it in the water, the
same thing happened, a snap, and then a 1/8 in wide, several inch long crack
appeared. This work was done by someone with a great deal of experience using
West resins.
What is going on? The bilge looks fine. Four years ago, I employed the
Catalina Direct keel bolt upgrade and installed ss lags. I did this only as a
precaution because the original bolts looked, well, rusted, but no worse than
other Catalinas. My bilge has always been clean and dry. I see nothing amiss
there now. There is no Catalina smile on this boat an no other external
indications of a problem anywhere along the keel.
Jon
C-27 1858
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