John, I am pretty sure that in 1985, roller furling was not a factory option.
Dealer or owner installed only. I have a 86TR with the double tube pulpit. My
furler drum (Hood-not recommended) is close, but fits. Personally, I found
that a low drum interferes with anchoring, so I raised it up about 3 inches
with link plates under the drum. I am not a racer, so having good visibility
under the sail is more important than having a deck sweeper. I have a 135%
sail that I think is perfect for my local wind conditions. IMHO. you will
spend 25-35% of the cost for a new sail to have your old one re-cut and set up
for furling.
Don, #6293, Niceville, FL
John Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks Phil,
All three on the list below have double swivels.
I found a new problem that may lead me towards the Harken. My C27TR has
two pulpit SS tubes going around the bow with little clearance between
the stay and the bottom pulpit tube. Looking at the Harken and Schaefer
drawings, it looks like the drum on the Harken is a little lower then
the two Schaefer units. I wonder if anyone else has had to work around
this issue?
There is another 85 C27TR in our marina with what looks like a factory
CDI unit but the lower SS tube on the pulpit seems to go forward further
then the one on my C27. I wonder if Catalina had two different pulpits
one for roller furling and one without?
Yep, I understand the furling/reefing issues. I will be using my old 110
after having our local loft putting on the luff tape. But a 135 will be
on my wish list!
John
Phil Agur wrote:
> John,
>
> The Schaefer Marine 750 is the factory furler for the C270, so it would be
> Catalina's choice if they were still making a C27. We've had ours for 12
> years with no issues what so ever.
>
> There are some big differences in roller furling gear. Beside the obvious of
> needing roller bearing construction, a design using a double swivel. A
> double swivel rides on the extrusion and connects the halyard to the head of
> the sail. This allows you to continue to shape the sail properly under
> varying conditions. Furlers without a double swivel are often run at a fixed
> tension tied off at the drum.
>
> The only caution I'd give is make sure you get a clear understanding of the
> difference between roller furling and roller reefing before you invest. The
> later is more about features in the sail than the actual furling unit,
> although one should never use a continuous loop control system on a roller
> reefing sail.
>
> Also trying to reef a non-reefing headsail with a roller furler unit cause
> the draft of the remain exposed sail to increase which exactly backwards to
> what you want to happen in high winds.
>
> Phil Agur
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Oppenheimer"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:27 AM
> Subject: catalina27-talk: Preferred Jib Furling System?
>
>
>> I have plans this spring to upgrade to a roller furling jib. I find
>> three predominant choices:
>>
>> Harken MKIV Unit 0
>> Schaefer CF-700
>> Schaefer System 750 (Catalina Direct kit available)
>>
>> All of the above suggest that no rigging modifications are needed and
>> they can be just bolted on. Is this true? Without lowering the mast?
>>
>> Are these "bolt on" systems a compromise, and are there better options?
>>
>> What are your experiences? Good, Bad, etc? Other suggestions?
>>
>> John
>> 1985 C27TR 5956 Cool Change
>> Lake Travis, Austin, TX
>
>
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