John, They sure look better than my '76 aluminum framed windows. I have another upgrade to put on the list. Just spoke with CD and my traveler was sent yesterday. : )
If you get around to that leak, I would appreciate some pics. I seem to recall seeing a website somewhere about upgrading windows to a frame-less type. Where you could change the shape to a more modern look, only on the outside. Of course my feeble mind forgot to bookmark it. But if anyone else has ever come across the website a point in the right direction would certainly help. Is it 5:30? All of this talk of windows reminds me of glass and glass reminds me of beer. Ummm.... Beer! -Ivan --- On Wed, 9/10/08, The Emmerichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: The Emmerichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: windows upgrade To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 6:29 AM Ivan, They came with the boat and as far as I know, they are original and installed by Catalina Yachts. I think there maybe a “L” shaped aluminum strip around the window or port. I’ve never had one out. I know the port aft one leaks a little. I need to do the resealing project that Catalina Direct sells. John Emmerich 5874 85 TR -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ivan Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: catalina27-talk: windows upgrade John, Saw your windows in your first pic. That looks nice! No frame? What's involved in that upgrade? Do they leak? --- On Tue, 9/9/08, The Emmerichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: The Emmerichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Traveler upgrade To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 11:20 AM Stephan, The traveler was $612. I imagine you could do as well direct through Garhauer. Some pictures are attached. We raced one-design day sailors for a long time. About 7 years ago we decided to move up to a small keelboat. My wife and I made a list of must have and would like to have features. We decided what we would buy was a cruiser/racer. One of the must haves was a wheel. Looking at my boat I not sure that boom end sheeting and a wheel are compatible. I would not have bought a C27 if a wheel were not part of the package. I agree that boom end sheeting is probably better from a sail trim standpoint but I do not know how much better. I agree before another discussion starts that a tiller will give the helmsperson better feel than a wheel. I think the degree of benefit of both of these depend on the capabilities of the folks handling the lines and the tiller. Again, I’m very happy with the result. My wife has neck and back issues and the new traveler has really helped when she trims the main. John Emmerich 5874 Fortitude -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephan Debelle Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 10:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Traveler upgrade John, Could you send a picture? How much did the upgrade run? Thanks, Stephan On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 9:33 AM, The Emmerichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I upgraded from the original curved cabin top traveler with 3:1 purchase on the control lines to the Garhauer that you see on Catalina Direct. It is flat, has 5:1 purchase and is a beautiful piece of equipment, I'm very happy with it. If I would do it again, I would go direct to Garhauer. This is a custom made piece of equipment so they need the distance between the cabin top handrails. Installation wasn't particularly complicated, just took a little while. A lot of holes to drill, 6 on each side. Your situation is different than mine. You can keep the original setup until the new one is installed. I'm sure you are aware that three bails are required on the boom to handle the main sheet load. It can't handle single point loading in the center of the boom. The only issue I had was that several of the 5/16 in. machine screws that bolt the horizontal member to the supports galled when I tightened or loosened them. Recommend you run a die over them before installing and tightening. I can send a picture if you are interested. John Emmerich 5874 85 TR -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 7:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: catalina27-talk: Traveler upgrade Greetings to all and a question: Has anyone upgraded thier old-style rear-cockpit traveler to a mid-boom or hatchtop traveler? I'm sure the question has been asked before, but I could not find a good thread to refer to. Catalinadirect.com has what appears to be an upgrade kit (~$600) but I cant find anyone out there vouching for it as a replacement for the cockpit traveler. Thanks ! After getting hammered by this listserver I'm finally going to use it for a q ! :-D P_Owen '73 C27 # 491 "Sweet Pea" Everett, WA *Cruising the North Sound next week - -- Stephan MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: stephan.debelle
