nah, it's a classic Chineser, rudder boils off and the boat rounds-down, main gybes before they can get the ram to move the keel over and then you are in a world of hurt with the keel pulling the down side of the boat further down. you can blow vang and tackline and whatever else you want but the boat isnt going anywhere until that ram can get the keel at least to the point where it is centered....but with the big Asail in the water, that ram is not only pushing the keel over, it's pushing it uphill PLUS THE LOAD of the sail that's pinning the boat down, so it's nice to reduce the load before you start to right the boat, hence the knife to unload
that kite.

the below deck shot shows how fast the thing will return to normal trim once the keel issue is dealt with.

bottom line, unlike a J105, these things take a while to recover from a wipe-out....J105 it's blow the vang and you're back in business, maybe blow the tackline if you want to catch shrimp. But these things you might want to open a book waiting for the lads to get her back on her feet. I think it's 30-45 seconds to get the keel
thru a full arc.

at least it's faster than shifting water ballast!!!

tf






looks like from the  David Shugarts wrote:

It's hard to say what's going on there, because in the shot looking forward,
she stays down a long time, while in the shot looking aft, she rights
herself fairly promptly. If the first shot shows what happens when you fail
to cant the keel, perhaps they had a mishap with the gear that does that?

I have actually seen worse weather 125 miles out (in October) but not on
such a fast boat. It would have added a whole 'nother dimension to our
fright.

Dave S. (Demitri)


On 11/21/08 4:29 PM, "tim ford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Safety????? They dont need no stinkin' safety!


tf
(helps to be no older than 45 although shirley some are!)


Joe McCary wrote:
and sailing well past the brink of safety.





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