I've reread the email you linked to. You write there about your own inventions
on the subject of visual building of application. This is very interesting to me. Very ambitious also. If you need some help from the InstantCRUD side (common data structure, API whatever) - then email me.
Nice to hear about people building something around Instant.
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Zbyszek
On 8/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dear Zby,
First off thank you for writing InstandCRUD, it made it much easier for me
to understand the Catalyst way of doing things.
I posted some comments about frameworks here:
http://lists.rawmode.org/pipermail/catalyst-dev/2006-July/000194.html
The problem with generated frameworks is shown in Visual C++ where you
generate a screen then are stuck with manual changes after because if you
go back to the meta-model and regenerate you lose code. So in that respect
I agree with what Matt is saying.
However, the problem facing most IT managers is that they have a majority
of average programmers who cannot handle more abstract design but can
handle point and click interface building based on a data source.
This competes somewhat with Catalyst's ideals to be lean, mean and not
tied to a particular One True Way. The way I see it is that you need the
core Catalyst, which is a pretty cool set of code, and a sample OTW
approach to get people started but which they can go beyond.
We're using Catalyst in a project I'm managing and I hope very much that
one of the outcomes from that will be to make it easier for other people
to use Catalyst. That is because I have tried (and failed) to pitch
Catalyst to IT customers because it's too complicated as it is now for
their staff.
Best wishes,
Peter Edwards
http://www.dragonstaff.com - Business IT Consultancy
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