Okay. It's done. Perl is now among the choices: http://www.plat-forms.org/ (http://www.plat-forms.org/faq.htm) But we just won a battle, not the war yet. So, lets bring it on.
We should at least get 2 teams that already live in germany. And maybe we can give a cent ot two for a foreign team. Myself is living in dubai right now. so i'm not sure if I'm able to participate at all. Hang loose, --esskar > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dami > Laurent (PJ) > Sent: Donnerstag, 12. Oktober 2006 16:22 > To: The elegant MVC web framework > Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Gentlemen, a call to arms! > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de John > > Napiorkowski Envoyé : mercredi, 11. octobre 2006 22:15 À : > The elegant > > MVC web framework Objet : Re: [Catalyst] Gentlemen, a call to arms! > > > > -- Matt S Trout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > http://www.plat-forms.org/faq.htm > > > > > > They're having a platform war. We're forever left out of > > the ruby vs. > > > python games, the "enterprise" people ignore us (though > really, I'm > > > not sure I mind that :) but ... > > > > > > "We have been considering Perl as one of the platforms to > > be admitted > > > to the contest. So far, we have decided against it because > > we believe > > > that too few professionals use it professionally for us to > > hope to get > > > enough requests for admittance for the Perl platform. > > > > > > If you are a team that would like to participate and would > > like to use > > > Perl, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lutz Prechelt)." > > > > > > This is a bit of a shotgun e-mail. Several list admins > are probably > > > going to attempt to track me down and shoot me in the > head. I don't > > > care. > > > > > > Our community has repeatedly failed to market it's way out > > of a paper > > > bag, I've even helped contribute to this with my eminently > > forgettable > > > London Web Frameworks Night talk. But this is about > > producing working > > > code. *That* we know we can do. > > > > > > Stand up and be counted. It's gotta be good for a laugh > if nothing > > > else. > > > > From reading that webpage I think they are looking more for > requests > > from teams that would actually be willing to go to Germany on the > > competition date. I'm not sure if we all just wrote, "Hey > I'm an IT > > consultant using Perl/Catalyst or Perl/FrameworkOfChoice > and think you > > are making a big mistake not putting Perl on your list." if > that would > > sway them. > > > > They are betting no one will put up the cash to sponsor a > Perl team. > > And they are looking for several teams for each platform, enough to > > make a contest between developers in a platform meaningful. > > > > The rules specify that they won't be comparing platforms, so their > > won't be any, "Perl versus ROR verus J2EE" going on. > > So that's why they want enough people for a given platform > to show up. > > > > Now if we could identify some awesome Catalyst developers who could > > are willing and available to go to the contest and then > raise money to > > send them I think it could raise their attention. We have > to decide > > if this particular contest represents a good investment of our time > > and cash. Perhaps some of the local or reasonable local > Perl Mongers > > could send some teams? It would show the strength of the community. > > > > Anyone know more about the actual status and recognition of this > > contest? Would having perl programmers at it meaningfully > add to our > > mindshare in the enterprise? > > > > --john > > > > Hi all, > > I think this contest is a very good opportunity for Perl and > Catalyst to get more recognition. About the status of this > contest, I guess nobody knows much more than what is on the > website, but I can imagine that the final report will have > quite a broad audience. The previous paper by Lutz Prechelt > (An empirical comparison of seven programming languages) is > cited quite often, as it is one of the very few sources for a > fully objective comparison of several languages, ignoring the > hype and religious wars. > > As John wrote, the best way to convince the organisers to > change their mind is if they get several requests from Perl > teams to participate in the contest. The call for > participation says "Preferably, all three participants should > come from the same organization". So, if your organisation is > using Perl/Catalyst -- I hope there are more than a few > nowadays -- , then please write to the contest organizers > saying that you would like a Perl track to be opened. Also, > we should probably alert the Jifty, Maypole, > CGI::Application, etc. communities to join that lobbying effort. > > Laurent Dami. > > > _______________________________________________ > List: [email protected] > Listinfo: http://lists.rawmode.org/mailman/listinfo/catalyst > Searchable archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ > _______________________________________________ List: [email protected] Listinfo: http://lists.rawmode.org/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
