On 12/4/06, Octavian Rasnita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yes of course, but if thinking this way, PHP could be considered not very
successfully, because it is not an extraordinary language, however, it is
used in much more web sites than perl, and some big sites like Yahoo also
use it.

PHP is very popular and thus successful, from a marketing POV.
However, technically, it's a recipe for spaghetti code.

So I think a successful framework should be good and flexible, but also
accessible, easy to learn, and *portable to Windows*, because most of the
computer users are using Windows, Apache is the most used web server, but
the percent of the sites that use Apache decreases and the percent of IIS
sites increases.

I agree with you up to the point where you cite IIS as a viable
alternative to Apache.
It's not, period.

The success of a framework is counted in the number of web sites that use
it, and the importance of those web sites.
An extraordinary technology that's used by nobody or by a smaller number of
users, do really have some issues.
More users means a bigger interest in it, a better mouth to mouth
advertising, more jobs that require knowing that technology...

As I've previously said, it really boils down to how you're measuring
your success.
If success is being popular, PHP is the most successful web language
ever. But I think that language or framework developers should strive
for quality, not popularity. Quality != quantity.

I have tried "install Catalyst" again, thinking that I could see those
errors again, but I received the message that Catalyst is up to date, so I
don't know which were those errors, and which modules were not installed.

Well, if it is installed then, in theory, no real errors occurred.
Isn't it working?

-Nilson Santos F. Jr.

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