On 2 Jan 2007, at 14:33, John Napiorkowski wrote:
--- Kieren Diment <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hey,
There's an article, "Web Framework Manifesto" here:
http://blog.lostlake.org/index.php?/archives/16-Web-Framework-
Manifesto.html
I've written a comment in the article suggesting
that this is a pretty major
ommission and that he might want to evaluate
Catalyst and do an update. The
author seems coherent and reasonably knowledgable to
me, so how bout it
guys? Maybe you should let him know his mistake
too?
This is actually quite an interesting thoughtdump on
what we'd like in a web development framework. Some
of the things mentioned, such as a great dispatching
system, straightforward ORM support and easy to extend
APIS (Plugins, customized Controllers, Views or
Models) we have. However some of the things mentioned
I don't see as current strong points of Catalyst, such
as the idea of web pages being highly componentized
and capable of managing their own state. This could
just be my ignorance though.
I don't really think that belongs in Catalyst base; I'm implementing
highly componentised UI development with automatic state management
in Reaction and I'm not finding doing so "on top" of Catalyst any
harder than it'd be to hack it into the core.
The article is big on continuations. Catalyst has a
plugin for this but I'm not sure many people know what
to do with it or what the advantages could be. To be
honest I'm not someone that could answer that
question.
Web development is effectively stateless - or at least HTTP is. I
tend to find continuation usage is almost invariably an XY problem -
i.e. if you need continuations to implement your design, you should
probably rethink it.
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