On Dec 24, 2008, at 2:07 PM, Tomas Doran wrote:
On 24 Dec 2008, at 18:27, Ashley wrote:
On Dec 24, 2008, at 2:08 AM, Tomas Doran wrote:
On 24 Dec 2008, at 00:25, Ashley wrote:
I love OS X but the Perl it has historically shipped with is
historically no so hot. I would strongly recommend you install
the latest 5.8 (NOT over your system perl but beside it) or 5.10.
I don't consider this good advice, especially for a beginner.
He didn't say he was a Perl beginner. :)
Yeah, sorry - total misreading on my part there..
He said he was new to Catalyst. The perl + libs OS X ships with
have caused me many problems (nothing with Cat springs to mind,
more C-based things like Storable) in the past from the public
beta to 10.4.
I've never had an issue with Apple's perl myself. I wouldn't use it
for production (where I build my own from source), but I've always
found it fine for development..
It's not bad advice, generally - but readers could have got the
impression that Catalyst itself is unlikely to work on the perl
which Apple ship, which isn't true..
I've used every single OS X from the PB and I've had problems with
all of them except 10.5 but I didn't keep it long enough to know if
it would cause problems, I upgraded Perl as soon as I got my new
machine. Maybe I do more odd things than you, but many system
installs are not particularly hot. The vendors make goofy, subjective
choices and releases get frozen with bugs. Red Hat Perl has also had
big problems, which clobbered DBIC among other libs, just as another
example. You should cook your own if you know how.
This might be the problems with the temporarily out of sync
content decoding layers in LWP v Mech. Which are all fixed in the
newest versions. So installing LWP and WWW::Mechanize before
Catalyst might be all that's needed.
I think that is just idle speculation...
I think that's just a cliche to fill space... There was an ongoing
problem between Mech and LWP regarding decoding layers it was
discussed on those lists, Perl Monks, and here too as it was messing
with testing Cat apps. It was fixed. The last time I updated was
about then and everything went fine. Without looking at test output
it was a perfectly reasonable guess.
I can confirm that right now for me, a freshly installed 5.8.8,
pulling everything (including latest WWW::Mech, and latest LWP)
from CPAN, WWW::Mech fails tests for me, as per:
You're right. It's bad live tests. They're checking live sites which
is prone to falling down, obviously, because sites change content.
All the unit tests pass so a force install in this case is completely
reasonable.
j...@jasper[124]~/build/WWW-Mechanize-1.52>prove -l lib t
t/00-load.................1/2 # Testing WWW::Mechanize 1.52, with LWP
5.822, Perl 5.010000, /usr/bin/perl
t/00-load.................ok
t/add_header..............ok
t/aliases.................ok
t/area_link...............ok
t/autocheck...............ok
t/clone...................ok
t/cookies.................ok
t/credentials-api.........ok
t/credentials.............ok
t/die.....................ok
t/field...................ok
t/find_frame..............ok
t/find_image..............ok
t/find_inputs.............ok
t/find_link-warnings......ok
t/find_link...............ok
t/find_link_id............ok
t/form-parsing............ok
t/frames..................ok
t/image-new...............ok
t/image-parse.............ok
t/link-base...............ok
t/link-relative...........ok
t/link....................ok
t/new.....................ok
t/pod-coverage............ok
t/pod.....................ok
t/regex-error.............ok
t/save_content............ok
t/select..................ok
t/taint...................ok
t/tick....................ok
t/upload..................ok
t/warn....................ok
t/warnings................ok
All tests successful.
Files=35, Tests=339, 20 wallclock secs ( 0.45 usr 0.41 sys + 14.26
cusr 2.88 csys = 18.00 CPU)
Result: PASS
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