> So, I'm thinking there's no better place, than Catalist, to ask about a
> good PHP framework, that will make sense to a Catalyster.

I'm in a similiar situation. I initially attempted to use CakePHP. After 
having wasted too much time with Cake, I switched to Symfony. I'm still in 
the process of learning it (I'm working on their Jobeet tutorial) but I 
already have a much better feeling about it.

For example, with Cake, I was struggling simply to get the user interface 
language in urls. With Symfony, I just have to follow lesson 19 of their 
Jobeet tutorial.

Julien

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