EGYPT: COURT GIVES CHRISTIAN BOYS TO MUSLIM FATHER

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Despite a fatwa from the Grand Mufti, Alexandria 
judge denies custody for mother.

ISTANBUL, October 2 (Compass Direct News) – 
Following the Appeal Court of Alexandria on Sept. 
24 granting custody of 13-year-old Christian 
twins to their Muslim father, their mother lives 
with the fear that police will take away her children at any moment.

Kamilia Gaballah has fought with her ex-husband 
Medhat Ramses Labib over alimony support and 
custody of sons Andrew and Mario in 40 different 
cases since he left her and converted to Islam so 
that he could remarry in 1999.

The court ruled in favor of Labib in spite of 
Egyptian law’s Article 20, which grants custody 
of children to their mothers until the age of 15, 
and a fatwa (religious ruling) from Egypt’s most 
respected Islamic scholar, Grand Mufti Ali Gomaa, giving her custody.

“This decision was dangerous because it was not 
taken in accordance with Egyptian law but 
according to sharia [Islamic] law,” said Naguib 
Gobraiel, Gaballah’s lawyer and president of the 
Egyptian Union of Human Rights Organizations.

He explained that Egypt’s civic code calls for 
children under the age of 15 to stay with their 
mother regardless of their religion. Gobraiel 
said that sharia tends to favor the Muslim parent in such cases.

“They want to stay with their mother,” said 
Gobraiel. “They don’t know anything about Islam 
and sharia. They are Christians and go to church on Sundays.”

The twins have publicly stated their faith, and 
during a test in a mandatory religious class two 
years ago they scribbled only, “I am a Christian” 
on their answer sheets and otherwise turned them 
in blank. The twins intend to go on a hunger 
strike if they are forced to live with their 
Muslim father, whom they hardly know, sources said.

“We only want one thing,” said Gobraiel. “We want 
the law to be applied in our cases like this one, 
not the sharia, because the government owes us 
citizenship. This is a civilized, secular country, not a religious country.”

The decision of the presiding judge, El Sayed El 
Sherbini, to give the father full custody is not 
even based on sharia but is purely arbitrary, 
Gaballah and her eldest son George Medhat Ramses 
claimed, since the country’s State Mufti had 
granted custody to the mother in April 2006.

“We don’t want to give them to anyone or comply 
with the sentence,” Ramses told Compass. “All the 
legal ways have been wrong to us. We’ve been 
trying to make it as legal as we can, but the court has not been fair.”

Ramses, 21, who is also a Christian and lives 
with his mother and two little brothers, said the 
judged showed bias in favor of his father because 
he converted to Islam shortly after he left Gaballah.

“The decision was unfair and oppressive,” 
Gaballah told Compass. “I am treated differently 
than other Egyptians, as if this is not my own country.”

Gaballah, who has been fighting to keep her sons 
since the court decided in 2006 that custody of 
her sons should be given to her ex-husband, fears 
that her children will grow up without hope and a sense of justice.

“I am so sad and afraid about their psychology,” 
she said, “because they are facing something that 
is fundamentally against all the principles I have taught them.”

Gaballah said she is ready to keep fighting with 
the few means left in her power to keep her sons, 
even if it means tarnishing her with a criminal 
record by not handing them over to their father.

“And I’m determined to get justice in my own 
country, because it is my natural right and my 
sons’ right,” she said. “I cannot see how I can 
comply with the people who are taking my rights 
away from me and taking my children from me to 
give them to an unworthy father and another woman.”

Labib is now married to his third wife, with whom 
he has a 4-year-old son. He is a businessman 
working in exports and travels between Alexandria and Cairo.

Gobraiel said that he intends to send a clear 
message to Egypt’s President Hosni Mubarak and 
the international human rights community that 
judgments like this one are hypocritical on the 
part of a government that claims to be “civilized.”

“How can they think we live in a civilized and 
secular country when they are applying sharia law 
on us?” he asked. “We will send a message to 
human rights organizations in Egypt and around 
the world to help us. We are angry and we want to declare it!”

Problematic Birth Certificates

Even under their father’s custody, the twins have 
the legal right to live with whomever they choose 
in two years, when they turn 15. But Ramses said 
he doubts the court would let them return to their mother.

“The same law that states that they should stay 
with mother until the age of 15 is the one that 
says they can decide where to live after the age 
of 15,” he explained. “If the court didn’t apply 
the first part of the law, they won’t apply the second.”

At the age of 16, when Mario and Andrew apply for 
their identification cards, they will face yet 
another hurdle, said Ramses. In 2005, Labib went 
to the population register and changed the twins’ 
birth certificates from Christian to Muslim, to reflect his own religion.

Now Ramses fears that a Sept. 23 court ruling in 
the case of Bahia Nagy El-Sisi, sentencing her to 
prison for three years for “forgery of an 
official document,” could be what awaits him and 
his little brothers. Nagy El-Sisi’s father had 
converted to Islam briefly in 1962, when she was 
3 years old, and her documents were never altered 
to reflect the change as she remained a 
Christian. She and her sister discovered that 
their father had temporarily converted to Islam 
when the sister, Shadia Nagy, tried to issue marriage papers for her son.

Shadia Nagy was sentenced to three years in 
prison in 2007, also for “forgery.”

“These women are us in the future,” said Ramses.

Over the past few years, as Christians have found 
out about the twin boys’ case, Ramses said many 
have called them to give support. Many also have 
pledged to go on a hunger strike with the boys if 
they are handed over to their father.

“Christians see them as Coptic heroes and martyrs 
who stood up in front of all and said they were 
Christians and held on to it,” said Ramses. “All 
of them say they see the greatness of their 
ancestors and Christian heroes of long ago in 
them … and they carry a lot of respect and love for what they have done.”

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