On Oct 10, 2006, at 2:54 PM, Adrian Wiesmann wrote:
* If we (cayenne dev community) are to continue the development, as a
first step I suggest making Cayenne core independent of DV runtime.

I would suggest to move DV "out of the way" so that it is not hurting the
normal Cayenne development. But please keep DataViews supported. I am
currently in the process to switch to Cayenne 3.x because I absolutely
need the Lifecycle Callbacks (generating uuid formated key when creating a new object and updating the last_updated field before committing changes).

Because the SOBF tool is that much depending on DataViews I would very
much like to see them at least not removed. I would hate to have to redo everything I already programmed only because of DataViews being removed
from Cayenne.

This sounds like a reasonable strategy. I guess we can promise that much. But again, I appreciate if all interested parties could actually help us with DV maintenance. You probably know much more about DV than myself or any of the current committers anyways :-)

As the history shows (DV, JStaple and Rowan projects), there is lots of interest in Swing-related technologies in our community, but not nearly as much commitment. I suspect it is because Swing is not paying anyone's bills consistently (e.g. I may have a 2-month Swing project and then switch back to webapps, I believe that's the case with others too).

It would be cool if we could find one or more dedicated developers with a vision in this area to lead the Swing effort. But I'll keep dreaming...

The SOBF tool (Security Officers Best Friend, Open Source tool for
assessing information security risk)

I like your website :-)

Andrus



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