On 6/21/06, Gentry, Michael (Contractor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hmm, I can look into the UUID thing a bit more, but at first glance I don't 
think it has the information I'd like encoded in it.  But thanks!  :-)

Isn't UUID also guaranteed to be unguessable based upon previous
UUID's and have no structure?

It does sound like you have very different needs if you need some
structure to the number.


As to my comments, I have a feeling that changing the value of an existing 
primary key of an object would have bad consequences on the Cayenne object 
graph (mess Cayenne up).  I've never tried it, but it just doesn't seem like 
the right thing to do.

The second thing you mentioned, catching exceptions and trying again, seems 
very hackish, which I'm sure you already know.

Is there any reason you can't use the existing server-side PK generation?

It needs to be supported by both the JDBC driver and the Cayenne
adapter, which is not always the case.


/dev/mrg


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Øyvind Harboe
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 9:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Generating primary key locally without extra tables


On 6/21/06, Gentry, Michael (Contractor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I actually looked into making a PK generator that required no DB access, but 
when I looked into it, Java didn't support everything I wanted without resorting 
to JNI and C code.  Of course, I was more ambitious in what I was thinking.  I 
wanted it to be similar to what I could do in EOF (hundreds of keys/sec).
>
> Does anyone here know if Java 1.5 supports obtaining the process ID natively? 
 I think that was my stumbling point before.  I was trying to make a key that 
contained server IP, process ID, timestamp, and counter.  Maybe it is time to 
consider this again.  If I could produce a unique string all the time like that, 
it would make a nice PK generator and your PKs would have some meaning (that is me 
with my production support hat on).

It sounds like you are looking for something like:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/java/util/UUID.html

> As to your questions ...
>
> A) My gut feeling tells me that wouldn't be a good idea.

Could you be more specific?

We're replacing a horrid .asp + MS Access application, which
inevitably leads to some nausea :-)

> B) You could do that, but it seems pretty problematic to me.

More specific?


> Maybe some others will have a few good ideas ...

If I can have an MSAccess & Oracle & MS SQL adapter that supports
server generated keys, then that will also solve my problems. Might be
a bit quixotic though. :-)

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