Alicia (& all),

I believe without question that all kinds of wild bird reports should be posted 
on Cayugabirds-L, not just rarities or first-of-year reports, and I hope my own 
various postings have demonstrated an appreciation for many aspects of birding. 
 With regard to the Sanderling and Orange-crowned Warbler on Saturday, I think 
they should have been reported to Cayugabirds-L, and to the extent. that those 
reports were late or incomplete I think that all of us who saw the birds or 
knew about them and subscribe to Cayugabirds-L share some responsibility.  I 
did not intend to suggest in my post that the fact that neither species was 
extremely rare and both species had already been reported this year was a 
reason for not reporting them to Cayugabirds-L.  

The part which Alicia cut out of my post refered to a different system, not 
Cayugabirds-L, by which birders can send a text message about rare birds to 
subscribers of that rare bird alert (RBA) who can then receive that message 
immediately on their cell phone while they are out birding or anywhere else, 
rather than waiting until everyone has come home tired after birding and then 
written and posted their own reports and read everyone else's reports on 
Cayugabirds-L, and it's gotten dark, and the rare bird may have left, and 
others chances of refinding it are greatly reduced.  My question was whether 
the Sanderling and Orange-crowned Warbler were unusual enough to go into that 
system, whose rules I did not make, but specifically speak of birds which are 
out of season or out of range and specifically exclude simple first-of-year 
reports of expected birds.  If the above birds (and the Cackling Geese, and the 
American Golden-Plovers) don't qualify, maybe a new text-message service should 
be started for birders who have time and texting to spend on finding out such 
things without bothering the busy people on the RBA who only want to hear about 
the real rarities.  Perhaps these messages can also be sent to Cayugabirds-L?  
Another option might be to receive all Cayugabirds-L posts as text messages, 
but this has its drawbacks as these posts can be numerous, long, and diverse 
with the bits of unusual-bird-info hidden so they don't even show up in text 
messages.  I'm sorry if this is or was confusing.  Perhaps I shouldn't be 
bothering the whole Cayugabirds-L with such arcane stuff, but I wanted to be 
clear.

As to first of year records (and first of season records), I think there is 
value beyond the fun, and there are reasons other than competitiveness to 
associate a name with a report.  A first of year report gives people a sense of 
what time of year a species shows up, and can allow people to be more alert for 
that species.  A person's name with that report may allow others to contact 
that person, which can help in learning such things as how they identified the 
bird, how they found the bird, and what sort of places they were birding, and 
specific directions.  That's certainly how I use those contacts!  By the way, 
the tradition of keeping track of first of year records and publicly crediting 
them to specific observers at specific locations goes back decades at the Lab 
of O.

What I wrote is below.  

--Dave Nutter


"Some neat birds were found Saturday that didn't get posted on Cayugabirds-L or 
texted to the rare bird alert but did get shared by cell phone among several 
people in the field. There was a Sanderling which Bob McGuire & Gary Kohlenberg 
(& Stuart Krasnoff?) found at Myers Point early this morning, and was later 
seen by at least Ann Mitchell and myself.  And there was an Orange-crowned 
Warbler which Nate Senner found at Freese Road which was later seen by Gary 
Kohlenberg and Ann Mitchell.  Neither was a first of year observation nor a 
bird which is unexpected, but both are tough basin birds which few people have 
seen this year.  Should such observations be put on the RBA?  Should observers 
ensure that such observations get posted on Cayugabirds-L?" 

 
On Sunday, October 18, 2009, at 10:07AM, "Alicia Plotkin" <[email protected]> 
wrote:
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