No, the late duck hunting season has not always overlapped with our count.  
It's only been a problem in the last 10 years or so.  I remember being shocked 
the first time the opening day was 1 January.  I had never experienced any such 
disruption in the previous decade of the count.

The duck season can change every year if the DEC decides to do it.  It has 
started on 1 Jan for the last few years, but started earlier this year.  So, if 
we had moved our count back to this last weekend, we would have been just as 
bad off.  I believe the length, timing, and even existence of waterfowl seasons 
are tied to duck productivity numbers so that they can be responsive to 
population changes.  I'm not sure there even WAS a late duck season 20 years 
ago.

The only predictable and reliable date in any of this is that most people have 
1 January off.  Everything else changes with the year.

Kevin


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[mailto:bounce-111406900-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of bob mcguire
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 10:19 AM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Christmas Bird Count and Hunting Pressure

In an effort to move the discussion towards some sort of resolution, I have 
have a couple of questions. Does anyone have answers?

1) Has the late waterfowl hunting season overlapped with the Ithaca CXBC for 
ever? If not, since when?

2) Who (office or person) in the DEC sets the season dates? Is it strictly a 
matter for the DEC, or is US Fish & Wildlife involved?

3) I know we have a TRADITION of counting on New Year's Day. (And I love to 
start the new year this way.) But would counting on a different day change the 
value of the data we collect? And in a significant manner?

Chris T-H: If this discussion gets too far off topic for the listserve, let us 
know!

Bob McGuire

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