Thanks Dave for the detailed reply!


Meena Haribal
Ithaca NY 14850
42.429007,-76.47111
http://haribal.org/
http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/



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From: [email protected] 
<[email protected]> on behalf of Dave Nutter 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 6:42 PM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] One special hunting season and two management 
proposals -black bear and Mute Swan.

To answer Meena's question, here's the summary from the NYSDEC website 
regarding how close one may hunt to various buildings and roads:

"It is illegal to discharge a firearm or bow:

  *   so that the load or arrow passes over any part of a public highway,
  *   within 500 feet of any school, playground, or an occupied factory or 
church,
  *   within 500 feet of a dwelling, farm building or structure in occupation 
or use unless you own it, lease it, are an immediate member of the family, an 
employee, or have the owner's consent.
  *   You may hunt waterfowl, over water, within 500 feet of a dwelling or 
public structure as long as neither are within 500 feet in the direction you 
are shooting."

I suppose this means Cornell employees or anyone with Cornell permission 
theoretically can shoot nearer to Cornell buildings. The City of Ithaca ban 
would still be in effect, but there's a LOT of Cornell land outside the City, 
whose border is just east of Low Rise 7, Appel Commons, Mann Library, Fernow 
Hall, Bradfield Hall, Bartels Hall, and Humphries Service Building. Thus the 
Hasbrouck Apartments, the Cornell Golf Course, the upstream end of Beebe Lake, 
nearly all of what we consider the Plantations, the Vet School, and the 
Orchards (plus the non-Lansing parts of Sapsucker Woods) could still be in the 
special deer-hunting program (I don't know). And to the south, one needn't go 
far into Mulholland Wildflower Preserve before crossing into the Town of 
Ithaca, so there's a lot of the Six-mile Creek watershed which might qualify. 
To further reassure Meena, anyone can post their land against hunting or 
trespassing. I wonder if anyone has made a map of, say, Tompkins County with 
500' radius circles around all the residences, schools, etc., to see what land 
is left over for hunting.

As Gary mentioned, there's a Cornell land deer permit system, but applications 
had to be in by 15 Oct. I don't know what areas actually are included.

Non-Cornell lands in the DEC program include just bow-hunting in Buttermilk 
Falls State Park and in Robert Treman State Park (not Allen H Treman State Park.

More DEC info on this program is here:

http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/82382.html

I'm glad there  isn't supposed to be shooting within the City limits or the 
Village of Cayuga Heights, but this will make the program pretty ineffective at 
bringing down the number of deer in these areas. Too bad DEC and the City don't 
allow hunting with spears. That might be both effective and safe for people.

Gary is right that the DEC's proposed elimination of feral Mute Swans in NYS 
could reduce the ease with which we tick that species. Maybe the answer is to 
herd those vicious swans into Cayuga Heights and the City of Ithaca's West Hill 
and have them duke it out with the deer.

--Dave Nutter

On Jan 20, 2014, at 09:54 AM, Meena Madhav Haribal <[email protected]> wrote:




The map seem to cover all residential areas in the Tompkins county.



Does this mean you can shoot in my yard where the deer mostly hide? Is it not 
there is rule that you cannot shoot within some distance of dwellings?



Meena


Meena Haribal
Ithaca NY 14850
42.429007,-76.47111
http://haribal.org/

http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/





________________________________
From: [email protected] 
<[email protected]> on behalf of Dave Nutter 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 9:27 AM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] One special hunting season and two management 
proposals -black bear and Mute Swan.

See map of special deer hunting area within Tompkins County. Note that hunting 
is still prohibited in the City of Ithaca and Village of Cayuga Heights and 
Village of Lansing, even though the program is advertised as trying to reduce 
deer overpopulation within the City of Ithaca. Local ordinances apply, and 
hunting by gun or bow is prohibited in the City of Ithaca.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/wildlife_pdf/tompdmfabndry.pdf

--Dave Nutter

On Jan 20, 2014, at 07:26 AM, John and Sue Gregoire <[email protected]> wrote:

Be aware of the special deer season throughout Tompkins County when you venture 
out
in January. The second and third item propose Black Bear and Mute Swan 
management
plans and are open for comment.
J.

01/15/2014
Hello,
The NYS Department of Environmental Conservation has issued the following press
release:

Special Deer Hunting Season in Central Tompkins County to Help Control Local 
Deer
Population

Deer Management Focus Area Open Until January 31, 2014

A special deer hunting season to help control the deer population in and around 
the
city of Ithaca, Tompkins County, will be open until January 31, 2014, State
Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) Regional Director Ken Lynch 
announced
today.

The Deer Management Focus Area (DMFA) program was initiated in 2012 in the 
Ithaca
area to expand the use of hunting to assist local communities burdened with
overabundant deer populations. The DMFA encompasses 60,000 acres of land in and
around the city of Ithaca, including the city and town of Ithaca, the villages 
of
Cayuga Heights and Lansing, and parts of the towns of Danby, Caroline, Dryden,
Lansing, Enfield, Newfield and Ulysses.

During the special January season in the DMFA, registered hunters are 
authorized to
shoot two antlerless deer per day using a shotgun, muzzleloader, handgun, or 
bow (if
they have bowhunting eligibility). Hunters must still comply with all state
trespassing laws, as well as all applicable local ordinances governing the 
discharge
of firearms.

To participate, hunters must register with the DMFA program and download a 
permit,
carcass tags and a hunting activity log. Both the DMFA permit and carcass tags 
must
be carried while hunting in the DMFA and are valid only within the DMFA. All 
DMFA
hunters must record their deer hunting activity and harvests on the hunting 
activity
log regardless of their success or hunting activity level, and are required to
submit the log form to DEC by February 7. Instructions are provided on the 
permit
and log form.

For additional information about the DMFA, including a map of the DFMA that 
includes
boundaries, a description of available hunting lands, or to register and 
download a
permit, carcass tags and a hunting activity log .

A New NYSDEC Press Release Has Been Issued: DEC Releases Two Draft Species
Management Plans
01/16/2014
Hello,
The NYS Department of Environmental Conservation has issued the following press
release:

DEC Releases Two Draft Species Management Plans

Plans Will Guide Management of Black Bears and Mute Swans for the Next Ten Years

The New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) today released
draft species management plans for black bears and mute swans, and will be 
accepting
public comments on these management plans through January 31, 2014.

"Wildlife management can present challenges in trying to balance populations,
hunting opportunities and environmental impacts," Commissioner Martens said. 
"These
plans will guide the management of these species for the next 10 years, and we
encourage people to review and submit comments on the draft plans."

These management plans also reflect Governor Cuomo's NY Open for Hunting and 
Fishing
Initiative, an effort to improve recreational activities for in-state and
out-of-state sportsmen and sportswomen and to boost tourism opportunities 
throughout
the state. This initiative includes the streamlining of hunting and fishing
licensing and reducing license fees, improved access for fishing at various 
sites
across the state, and increasing hunting opportunities in various regions.

Black Bears

The draft Black Bear Management Plan for New York State, 2014-2024 is available 
on
the DEC website.. Black bears are a very popular wildlife species among the 
general
public, but can pose significant challenges when the bears become too abundant 
or
are acting boldly in populated areas.

DEC's draft plan describes five primary goals that reflect the current 
priorities of
bear managers and desires expressed by the public:

maintain bear populations at levels acceptable to the public;
promote and enhance bear hunting as an important management tool;
minimize the frequency and severity of human-bear conflicts;
foster understanding and communication about bear ecology, management, and 
conflict
avoidance; and
ensure the necessary resources are available to support effective management of
black bears in New York.
The plan also describes the current and desired future status of bear 
populations in
various geographic regions of New York.

Many of the strategies identified in the plan are already occurring; others 
reflect
new work to be more fully developed during the next 10 years. The plan includes
proposals to expand bear hunting opportunities in many wildlife management 
units,
especially in the Catskills and western Hudson Valley where in recent years
human-bear conflicts have become more common and pose a serious threat to human
safety and property.

Comments on the draft bear plan may be submitted in writing through January 31, 
2014
to: NYSDEC Bureau of Wildlife, Bear Management Plan, 625 Broadway, Albany, NY
12233-4754 or by e-mail to 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> (please type 
"Bear Plan" in
the subject line).

Mute Swans

The draft Management Plan for Mute Swans in New York State is available on the 
DEC
website. The mute swan is a non-native, invasive species brought to North 
America
from Eurasia for ornamental purposes in the late 1800s.

Mute swans are most numerous on Long Island and in the lower Hudson Valley, but 
have
expanded their range in recent years, especially around Lake Ontario. Mute 
swans can
cause a variety of problems, including exhibiting aggressive behavior towards
people, destruction of submerged aquatic vegetation, displacement of native 
wildlife
species, degradation of water quality and potential hazards to aviation.

This draft management plan supports actions by DEC to eliminate free-ranging 
mute
swans from New York by 2025, while allowing responsible ownership of these 
birds in
captivity. DEC recently proposed listing mute swan as a "prohibited species" 
under
new Invasive Species regulations, which would prohibit the sale, importation,
transport, or introduction of this species in New York.

Comments on the draft mute swan plan may be submitted in writing through 
January 31,
2014 to: NYSDEC Bureau of Wildlife, Swan Management Plan, 625 Broadway, Albany, 
NY
12233-4754 or by e-mail to 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> (please type 
"Swan Plan" in
the subject line).
--
John and Sue Gregoire
Field Ornithologists
Kestrel Haven Avian Migration Observatory
5373 Fitzgerald Road
Burdett,NY 14818-9626
Website: http://www.empacc.net/~kestrelhaven/
"Conserve and Create Habitat"




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