I agree, Linda. Muster seems quite appropriate. Thanks.

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:11 PM, <jensdre...@aol.com> wrote:

> Recently, I found 2 dead crows near each other.  I was surprised to find
> this.  Is this unusual?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda Orkin <wingmagi...@gmail.com>
> To: Sue Rakow <sue.ra...@gmail.com>
> Cc: Anne Clark <anneb.cl...@gmail.com>; cayugabirds <
> Cayugabirds-L@cornell.edu>
> Sent: Tue, Mar 4, 2014 11:02 am
> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crows on South Hill
>
>   Sue, thanks for enjoying the list and for being so eager to learn.  All
> of us who admire, respect and enjoy crows are trying to retire the
> collective noun of "murder" as it can either imply that crows are evil or
> that they should be murdered.  Another term could be Congress of crows
> (which in this day and age can also be pejorative) or can also be a
> Muster.  Which would seem appropriate especially at this time of year as
> they gather or when they all raucously mob a Great-horned Owl.  I like
> Muster, the definition is apropos.
>
>  Keep watching!!!
>
>  Linda Orkin
>  Ithaca, NY
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Sue Rakow <sue.ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is very helpful information! Thank  you so much for the complete
>> picture. I am learning so much from being on this list serve. I am very
>> grateful!
>> Sue Rakow
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Anne Clark <anneb.cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> These groups are "winter roosts", and they are nothing new in crow life.
>>>  Despite what urban residents sometimes think, crows didn't start gathering
>>> when we set out cities for them to use.  Roosting in groups at any time of
>>> year may offer safety in numbers from night predators, such as Great Horned
>>> Owls.
>>>
>>>  In winter, birds living in northern areas that usually have constant
>>> snow cover for months do migrate south--Canada, areas of New England.
>>>  Crows don't necessarily have a particular area they migrate TO.  They may
>>> go as far as an area that is usually ok for foraging, perhaps one that they
>>> are familiar with from previous migrations.  There they form flocks that
>>> are made up of migrants as well as wide-foraging locals.  If it gets
>>> unusually snowy and cold, they may move further south.  (We really don't
>>> know much of the repeat migratory routes of individual crows.  We do know
>>> that birds tagged in Ithaca in winter are then seen on territories in
>>> Canada, VT, New Hampshire in summer, and that some birds RAISED in Ithaca
>>> have been observed or shot in winter, in such places as Maryland, West VA,
>>> and Pennsylvania, as well as in Cortland, Auburn, Geneva)
>>>
>>>  In the winter flocks, birds are foraging in open fields and off
>>> familiar areas.  During foraging, flocks offer some safety in numbers to
>>> detect predators in day (hawks, hunters, whatever).  At night the flocks
>>> "flock up" still more in places that offer "good roosting sites", which
>>> probably includes wind breaks, places from which owls can be detected at
>>> night. So they are probably gathering both for safety in numbers and also
>>> because they all agree on what makes a good site.  Cities may offer fewer
>>> predators, but also the lights may allow them to see the predators.
>>>  Finally roosting in flocks that include birds that have sampled food
>>> sources widely may allow birds to find new food sources, perhaps by
>>> following the most assured and directed birds leaving the roost.
>>>
>>>  So--Upstate NY has its own crows and is ideally positioned for
>>> northern crows--so flocks become big.  They like the agricultural fields
>>> interspersed with trees and lots of running water sources (which may be
>>> important in cold winters)...and we also offer lots of smaller cities, with
>>> large groups of lit trees in their downtowns or college campuses. These
>>> seem to be attractive.
>>>
>>>  Mid-late March is the start of the breeding season and flocking crows
>>> will be returning to their breeding latitudes.  Our Ithaca pairs are
>>> already calling on territory during daytimes.
>>>
>>>  As I say, some of this story is surmised from the patterns, not pinned
>>> down with hard data on individuals!  We know what our tagged birds do, when
>>> we can follow them.  But we would love to have gps data coming in from our
>>> birds, such as the snowy owls and golden eagles give their researchers.
>>>  Bring on the Tiny Tags!
>>>
>>>  Anne
>>>
>>>   On Mar 4, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Sue Rakow wrote:
>>>
>>>    I observed the murder of crows on Sunday evening. It was stunning. I
>>> would like to know more about why they gather in such large groups. Are
>>> they on the move or are they local? Can anyone help me understand?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Sue Rakow
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