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On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Chris Sutherland <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> How do I unsubscribe form this list - I have moved from Ithaca now
> unfortunately.
>
> Thanks
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Upstate NY
> Birding digest
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 12:03 AM
> To: cayugabirds-l digest recipients
> Subject: cayugabirds-l digest: October 10, 2015
>
> CAYUGABIRDS-L Digest for Saturday, October 10, 2015.
>
> 1. Re: Prothonotary Warbler, Myers Point 2. Dickcissel - Freese Rd 3. Re:
> Cornell Community Gardens - imminent conversion, weekend walks, M-Th recap
> 4. =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtjYXl1Z2FiaXJkcy1sXSBDb3JuZWxsIENvbW11bml0eSBHYXJkZW5z?=
> =?utf-8?B?IC0gaW1taW5lbnQgY29udmVyc2lvbiwgd2Vla2VuZCB3YWxrcywgTS1UaCBy?=
> =?utf-8?B?ZWNhcA==?=
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Prothonotary Warbler, Myers Point
> From: Jay McGowan <[email protected]>
> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 09:43:10 -0400
> X-Message-Number: 1
>
> The bird is still present this morning along the southern shore of Salt
> Point, working up and down near the creek but often hard to see.
> On Oct 9, 2015 5:34 PM, "Jay McGowan" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > A bright and absurdly late, not to mention just plain rare,
> > PROTHONOTARY WARBLER is currently foraging along Salmon Creek at Myers
> > Point and just flying across to Salt Point.
> >
> > Jay
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Dickcissel - Freese Rd
> From: Dave Nutter <[email protected]>
> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 14:25:17 +0000
> X-Message-Number: 2
>
> Tom Schulenberg reported a Dickcissel in the NE corner of the Freese Rd
> Community Gardens a few minutes ago. Town of Dryden a quarter mile south of
> Hanshaw Rd, east side.
>
> --Dave Nutter
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Cornell Community Gardens - imminent conversion, weekend
> walks, M-Th recap
> From: Paul Anderson <[email protected]>
> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 11:53:11 -0400
> X-Message-Number: 3
>
> All:
>
> The Freese Road gardens situation isn't as dire as it sounds. I have a
> plot there so I have received emails about it from the organizers.
> Here's a snippet from one:
>
> > Dear Gardening Friends,
> >
> > I’m very sorry to tell you that there will be a major change at
> > Cornell Garden Plots next year (2016).
> >
> > The Cornell Agriculture department, who allows us to use the land on
> > which we garden, told us that we need to move out of the gardens in
> > 2016 so the land can be cover cropped.  Apparently we have been using
> > the same soil for so long that disease spores have built up and are
> > blowing around, which negatively effects nearby research plots. By not
> > growing vegetables and by cover cropping instead, we can greatly
> > reduce the diseases in our soil.  They have agreed to allow us to stay
> > at the Freese Road location and garden this year while they look for a
> > new location to move us to in 2016.
> >
> > Once they move us in 2016 we will stay in the new location for a
> > couple of years while they cover crop our Freese Road gardens.  Then
> > we would move back to Freese Road, but we would continue to rotate
> > between the two locations every couple of years so that diseases
> > don’t build up again.
> >
> > I’m letting you know about this now since you may be considering
> > installing structures or buying perennial plants for your “permanent
> > plot†.  Unfortunately it will no longer be permanent.
> >
> > The people in charge of these decisions want us to continue to garden,
> > they also need to protect the research projects going on nearby.  They
> > have been nothing but encouraging and positive in our interactions.
> > Overall this will make the gardens better, it will unfortunately mean
> > the end of the permanent plots.
> >
> Unfortunately there has been no success at finding an alternative spot for
> us gardeners. A location on Dodge Road was identified, but it needs work
> for drainage and a road and there is no money to pay for it, so until we
> can return to Freese Road, the club will be on hiatus.
>
> As a birder and a gardener, I am doubly saddened by the loss of this spot,
> but I am hopeful that we might get it back in a couple of years.
> And who knows? Maybe it will continue to be a good spot for fall sparrows
> regardless.
>
> Paul
>
> --
> Paul Anderson, VP of Engineering, GrammaTech, Inc.
> 531 Esty St., Ithaca, NY 14850
> Tel: +1 607 273-7340 x118; http://www.grammatech.com
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
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> =?utf-8?B?IC0gaW1taW5lbnQgY29udmVyc2lvbiwgd2Vla2VuZCB3YWxrcywgTS1UaCBy?=
> =?utf-8?B?ZWNhcA==?=
> From: Dave Nutter <[email protected]>
> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 02:21:37 +0000 (GMT)
> X-Message-Number: 4
>
> It's a bit worrisome that there isn't even an alternative site for the
> interim.
> I wonder what the effect of the hiatus will be.
> Will the demand for garden plots dissipate or be filled elsewhere?
> Will the Cornell powers that be forget to make Freese Rd available for
> gardening again?
> Will the weeds be gone during the interim, crowded out by the cover crop
> or plowed under with it?
> Will the pool of weed seeds be spent during the interim?
> Will the birds who know this place forget to look here, and be replaced by
> a new and ignorant generation?
> Will gardeners return and put up fences and posts that they have had to
> store for years?
> If the gardens return, I wonder whether they will be as productive for
> fall sparrows et al?
> Will the gardens be plowed under again before the weeds can build up again?
>
> --Dave Nutter
>
>
> On Oct 10, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Paul Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > All:
> >
> > The Freese Road gardens situation isn't as dire as it sounds. I have a
> plot there so I have received emails about it from the organizers. Here's a
> snippet from one:
> >
> >> Dear Gardening Friends,
> >>
> >>  I’m very sorry to tell you that there will be a major change at
> Cornell Garden Plots next year (2016).
> >>
> >>  The Cornell Agriculture department, who allows us to use the land on
> which we garden, told us that we need to move out of the gardens in 2016 so
> the land can be cover cropped.  Apparently we have been using the same soil
> for so long that disease spores have built up and are blowing around, which
> negatively effects nearby research plots.  By not growing vegetables and by
> cover cropping instead, we can greatly reduce the diseases in our soil.
> They have agreed to allow us to stay at the Freese Road location and garden
> this year while they look for a new location to move us to in 2016.
> >>
> >>  Once they move us in 2016 we will stay in the new location for a
> couple of years while they cover crop our Freese Road gardens.  Then we
> would move back to Freese Road, but we would continue to rotate between the
> two locations every couple of years so that diseases don’t build up again.
> >>
> >>  I’m letting you know about this now since you may be considering
> installing structures or buying perennial plants for your “permanent
> plot†.  Unfortunately it will no longer be permanent.
> >>
> >>  The people in charge of these decisions want us to continue to garden,
> they also need to protect the research projects going on nearby.  They have
> been nothing but encouraging and positive in our interactions.  Overall
> this will make the gardens better, it will unfortunately mean the end of
> the permanent plots.
> > Unfortunately there has been no success at finding an alternative spot
> for us gardeners. A location on Dodge Road was identified, but it needs
> work for drainage and a road and there is no money to pay for it, so until
> we can return to Freese Road, the club will be on hiatus.
> >
> > As a birder and a gardener, I am doubly saddened by the loss of this
> spot, but I am hopeful that we might get it back in a couple of years. And
> who knows? Maybe it will continue to be a good spot for fall sparrows
> regardless.
> >
> > Paul
> > --
> > Paul Anderson, VP of Engineering, GrammaTech, Inc.
> > 531 Esty St., Ithaca, NY 14850
> > Tel: +1 607 273-7340 x118; http://www.grammatech.com
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