I do not mind staying in my car.

However, EVERY TIME I drive through the wildlife drive, Several vehicle's
worth of people do get out and this simply isn't fair.

Glenn

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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Diana
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 8:27 PM
To: Kevin J. McGowan
Cc: Marie P. Read; Dave Nutter; Van Beusichem, Andrea; CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma is great today!!! - out of car
thread...

Van Dyne Spoor, the ponds at Railroad St, the platform on Savannah Springs
Rd., Esker Brook.   I guess my real point is the drive is the only place
where you can't be out of a vehicle.  A blind would solve a lot of issues
and I agree that the one there, while put in with good intentions, is not
really useful with its southern view. I wish our birds were tolerant like
Florida, but they just aren't and when people are out of their car they
flee. The drive does provide spots to get out of the car, but everyone
jumping out wherever they want to just leaves nothing for people coming
afterwards. The flock of Dunlins I saw flying did not return to Eaton Marsh
even after a couple hours. Believe me, I am all for engaging people young
and old in the wonders of birds, but some of us like to observe behavior
that is only earned by having a low profile.

Respectfully,
 Diana

Diana Whiting
dianawhitingphotography.com

> On Oct 18, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Kevin J. McGowan <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> From: Diana [mailto:[email protected]] " Surely with so many 
> places on the refuge where you can get out of the car, ..."
> 
> Seriously? Where? You know the refuge. If you wanted to take a small group
to see some birds, where would you go? Where could you get anywhere near
close enough to anything interesting to engage a 10-year-old? The corral at
Mays Point used to have birds, but there hasn't been habitat there for
years. The towers and East Road have great stuff, but it's so far away you
can't show a beginner anything. I'm a photographer and I take almost all of
my photos from my car/blind. But, if we're talking education here, it just
isn't happening.
> 
> For exposure to wildlife at all levels, access is key. Denying access to
even a tiny sliver of the refuge serves no one's best interests, in my view.
Blinds would be cool, and are used successfully all over the world, but they
can't face south straight into the sun!
> 
> Kevin
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