Totally agree here.  And my old skippy friend is right in saying there
is a considerable overlap between R&S and SP.

The thing is it has been that long since I have picked up a book it is
not going to make much difference if I start a new stream afresh or do
SP.

Reason being is that it is pretty hard to get motivated when the R&S
Lab was "only" passed some time last year.  What I should have done is
sat my SP written 2 weeks after my R&S Lab and the the SP Lab 3 months
after my R&S Lab.

Too late for that now...

Think of it this way:
Since my lab I have not even touched (for example) MST, different OSPF
area types, or various other things that tend to remain static.  MST
being a good example of something I wouldn't touch much anyway because
all of the places I have been have had L3 to the edge.

Before I sat R&S I was saying, "Yeah I'll do SP in 6 months, Security
6 months after that, Voice a year later, then I suppose I'll do
Storage after that just because its there" but in reality once you do
the nightmare of the first lab its hard to do it all again.  Perhaps
if I followed my own advice and studied again immediately after R&S
(instead of going out and having a life and/or drinking booze) I might
be contemplating my third or fourth Lab now rather than initialising
conversation like this on a study list.

Maybe if I was still in training and had practice labs and time to
study at my fingertips instead of now where I have clients and SLAs
things might be different too.

I think I am being far too deep and philosophical for a technical
email list too.

Cheers,
Matt

CCIE #22386
CCSI #31207

2009/8/4 Mark Holloway <[email protected]>:
> I work for an ISP and there is always a demand for folks who understand BGP
> and MPLS in depth.  The SP track really gets you there.  As you said, it
> blends well with R&S.
> On Aug 3, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Antonio Dee wrote:
>
> I'm really confused also , wireless looks promising
>
> But if i ever make it on my RS, i'm making up my mind for SP immediately, as
> Jared has put it, there's a lot of overlaps between RS and SP, so I wanna
> capitalize on that :-)
>
>> From:�[email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:31:22 -0700
>> CC: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] OT - CCIE Wireless
>>
>> I'm guessing out of the six Wireless CCIE's out there that most of
>> them, if not all, work for Cisco.
>>
>> The Wireless track is something to be really excited about. After I
>> finish R&S it's a toss up between SP and Wireless. I really like SP
>> although I prefer to wait for an update..maybe introduce IOS XR.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2009, at 6:29 PM, Matt Hill wrote:
>>
>> > This kind of gives it away: :)
>> >
>> > Total of Worldwide CCIEs: 20003 (last updated 06/26/2009)
>> > Total of Routing and Switching CCIEs: 17247
>> > Total of Security CCIEs: 2328
>> > Total of Service Provider CCIEs: 1414
>> > Total of Storage Networking CCIEs: 145
>> > Total of Voice CCIEs: 1039
>> > Total of Wireless CCIEs: 6 <--------
>> >
>> > My attitude at the moment is pass the written, that recertifies my R&S
>> > and then I have the option if work wants me to go there.
>> >
>> > Travel is USA or EU is a pain for this one... I could do anything else
>> > in Sydney really.
>> >
>> > My ability to scour documentation got me over the line for R&S...
>> > Will I get such assistance for wireless? The fact I am asking such
>> > questions should indicate I am in the earliest of days and no where
>> > near sitting a lab...
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Matt
>> >
>> > CCIE #22386
>> > CCSi #31207
>> >
>> > 2009/8/4 Dale Shaw <[email protected]>:
>> >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Matt Hill<[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> Work wants me to do more wireless stuff.
>> >>>
>> >>> How do I study for this thing? There does not seem to be too much
>> >>> out there.
>> >>
>> >> Roman Rodichev recently passed the wireless lab and posted this to
>> >> GroupStudy:
>> >>
>> >> "Wireless lab is not easy, you really need to know controllers and
>> >> autonomous
>> >> APs in depth. I highly recommend knowing controller's CLI for various
>> >> reasons. If someone is thinking about going for it and considers
>> >> himself an
>> >> expert after working with wireless for several years, I would
>> >> recommend to
>> >> at least read the entire Autonomous IOS and WLC configuration
>> >> guides and
>> >> make a lot of notes. You should also read all CCO's wireless tech
>> >> notes and
>> >> research some of the topics on NetPro. NetPro definitely helped me.
>> >> There
>> >> are some very intelligent folks on there who can answer any
>> >> question about
>> >> wireless and who have way more experience on this stuff than me."
>> >>
>> >> cheers,
>> >> Dale
>> >>
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