What would you say they are then?Not all protocols have a direct presentation and session layer. That's why these are combined in the IP model. Since they rely on another transport protocol, they aren't the same as OSPF and EIGRP. I would definitely say BGP and RIP are protocols that run in the application layer.
-- Regards, Rick Mur CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider) Juniper JNCIA-ER & JNCIA-EX MCSA:Messaging, MCSE Sr. Support Engineer – IPexpert, Inc. URL: http://www.IPexpert.com On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:51 AM, desmond Black <[email protected]>wrote: > > Both RIP and BGP are applications in what sense? Only because they use the > Port-numbers for identicification & that EIGRP, OSPF, ISIS etc dont? > Transport Layer is Port numbers [in a very raw sense]. What Presentation > Layer protocol does BGP & RIP use? And What Application Layer thing are we > talking about for running them?? > I personally think its just a sham to write these Protocols off as > Application layer Protocols. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dale Shaw" > To: "Taqdir Singh" > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] RIP and BGP are application layer protocol > Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:07:07 +1000 > > > Hi, > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Taqdir Singh wrote: > > TCP and UDP are transport layer protocols. RIP uses UDP and BGP uses > TCP.. > > > > Please clear more how RIP and BGP are application layer ? > > This is pretty standard OSI model stuff. C'mon, do we really need to > cover it here? > > Both RIP and BGP are applications and therefore have an application > layer. The transport layer protocol employed is largely irrelevant. > > Cheers, > Dale > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please visit www.ipexpert.com > > > > > Desmond Black, > In Pursuit of CCIE!! > India > > > -- Be Yourself @ mail.com > Choose From 200+ Email Addresses > Get a *Free* Account at www.mail.com! > > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > >
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