Joe, Thanks for the response!
For anyone who is curious, I dug up the original recommended read list posted by Jared. He also did a follow-up blog post about 6 months later. http://blog.ipexpert.com/2008/11/21/so-much-information-part-one/ http://blog.ipexpert.com/2009/04/09/so-much-information-part-two/ Along with the MPLS book Joe recommended, Safari Books has a ~100 page online version of the CiscoPress Zone Based Firewall book available for viewing (and downloading as a PDF for a nominal fee). -EJ -----Original Message----- From: Joe Astorino [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 3:15 PM To: Fairbanks, Erik J. CTR USN NCSTFE-N3 Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My V4 Experience I actually still recommend the list Jared had put out on our blog. It is generally excellent. For the new v4.0 topics I would recommend adding the book "MPLS Fundamentals" it is by Cisco Press. Most of the other newer topics can be found in existing books on that same list, or by reading up on the DocCD (for some of the minor updates.) Obviously the big new heavy hitter is MPLS and MPLS L3 VPN. The book I just referenced is awesome...it is VERY well written and easy to understand. I am looking at the blueprint now and most of the other new changes are in the security section (Zone-Based FW, IPS) , services (GLBP...) or IPv6 (EIGRPv6, multicast) Zone-Based FW ...the BEST thing I think you can do here is read the most recent IOS software configuration guide on this section (security / securing the data plane). Seriously...everything you want to know and more is in there. IPS is kind of a pain in the butt, but to be honest I don't see this being a heavy topic...I think it will be very basic in the configuration. GLBP and any kind of IOS service -- Again the DocCD config guides should be your primary resource. For IPv6, EIGRPv6 is essentially the exact same thing as EIGRP for IPv4 with a few caveats. Multicast is essentially the same concept with longer addresses and a new protocol for joining groups (MLD instead of IGMP but it works VERY similarly) I just don't see a big need for any complete "must read cover to cover" books for the new topics other than MPLS L3 VPN ...and even that, you can get away with basically knowing how to setup and troubleshoot the MPLS L3 VPN end to end...you won't have to read into more advanced topics like TE, etc as they are not covered. On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:57 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: Joe, On the topic of the new v4 material, do you know of or have a list of recommended reading for folks to get them up-to-speed for the new exam? I saw an old blog post from Jared S. with a really good list for the v3 blueprint, but don't recall seeing anything for the new stuff (I may be mistaken...happens all the time!). Just curious. Thanks. -EJ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Astorino Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:17 PM To: Michael Lipsey Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] My V4 Experience Hey Mike, Sorry to hear about the temporary setback buddy...you can bet we were all rooting for you back here at IPexpert and the OSL. It sounds like you had more of an issue with the GUI and the windows than you did with the actual exam content though, so that should be encouraging. From what you said, it sounds like you just may need some brushing up on some of the newer topics? With the older delivery format but the same technical content do you feel you would have made it? How did your score report come out? If you want to share more or chat more about it unicast me I'd be happy to do it. On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Michael Lipsey <[email protected]> wrote: Today was my day. It sucked, primarily because I didn't pass. The OEQs are what you have come to know. The troubleshooting section is more or less how Wendell described it. I can't really add much to it. The Lab configuration part - also, less of the same so to speak. I think that it was a good mix of stuff doable in about 6 hours. Problem is you only have 5.5 officially. Overall my thoughts are for the test I had; If I had known a couple of the newer techs as well as I know say OSPF or EIGRP, I would have finished most if not all the tasks. I don't think I would have had much if any extra time from it though. There is probably 'just' enough time to do what they give you. The lab config part, well I think that in some respects it may be easier but still - 5.5 hours is just not much time. Task points were summarized more, instead of a few here and there for each task - it was points for the section. I don't really know what this means as far as grading is concerned. The biggest problem I had was the new GUI interface. It's interesting, has good points but for the most part I hate it compared to the v3 delivery. Let me repeat. I hate it. One of our proctors was Maurillio, I told him at lunch that I didn't like it. I didn't say I hated it though but the more I think about it the more I do. If we had two monitors things I think would be better. Still, the monitors they have are 24 freakin inches - you would think that would be big enough but it isn't. The primary diagram takes most of it up. When you open the 'questions' pop up which describes what you are supposed to do it covers up the diagram. Both windows are too big to be seen on a 24" monitor at the same time. So you have to play with the windows the entire freaking lab so that you can refer to the documentation, the questions and your secure CRT sessions. Seriously, I spent more time moving windows around in the first 2 hours that I finally just drew out my diagrams and was done with it. If you're going for your lab any time soon, prepare for the suck. There are 2 ways to solve this problem. Go back to the old delivery or give the candidates more monitor real estate. It is just ridiculous that the GUI is so problematic. The easiest fix I think is to provide 2 monitors (and a free attempt for me to make up for my significant frustration). -Mike _______________________________________________ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com -- Regards, Joe Astorino CCIE #24347 (R&S) Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert Mailto: [email protected] Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat eFax: +1.810.454.0130 IPexpert is a premier provider of Classroom and Self-Study Cisco CCNA (R&S, Voice & Security), CCNP, CCVP, CCSP and CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & Service Provider) Certification Training with locations throughout the United States, Europe and Australia. 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