Hi Nick, I would also agree with what the others have said. While I admire your initiative and think it is great that you are already anxious to dig in to the technologies, you must understand that the written is an entirely different beast than the lab. The written is all about the theory, and knowing the theory front and back...not really about practical hands on. I would focus more on straight up reading and studying the CCIE exam cert guide as well as the Cisco documentation and making sure you understand clearly all the fundamentals.
The other viewpoint out there is just scheduling your lab and start studying for it. Some people do this, and just go and pass the written on the way. If you really need to see things on the CLI to learn them, that may be the way for you. I am a good book learner, so that was not the path for me. I preferred to focus on one thing at a time. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:48 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree with the written lab half and half that seems to be what I'm doing. > Still makes you wonder if you are on the right track though. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > ------------------------------ > *From: * marc abel <[email protected]> > *Date: *Tue, 3 Nov 2009 20:42:25 -0600 > *To: *nicholas golden<[email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] When do I start the workbooks? (Senor Joe > A, I know you have an aswer!) > > I have been studying for mine doing both lab and written prep at the same > time. It seems to help me to apply what I am reading about, otherwise it > just stays abstract and I have a harder time remembering the minutia. If I > go through some labs and I see the reasons for things in action I seem to > retain it alot better. > > I also hope that having the written theory fresh in my head will help with > the Open ended questions. > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:20 PM, nicholas golden <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Alright, so I read some replies. Here is the confusing part - Has >> anyone looked at the v4 blueprint written vs the lab? It's IDENTICAL except >> the 11.00 section (11.01,11.02 and .3). + >> >> ....So when I am looking at this vs the lab blueprint it's challenging to >> figure out HOW to know when enough's enough to take the written. The reason >> I ask about the workbooks is the best way I learn something is by learning a >> little theory about how something works, breaking it down and doing a basic >> config of it. >> >> So I was figuring by nailing the blueprint and working through at least >> part of all of volume 1 workbook would test me in the configuration part but >> also in how something works as I can reference other material to check. Who >> knows if I am even taking a stab in the right direction? >> >> Studying for the written is not very exciting I must admit. So I have to >> keep myself excited by not avoiding the command line - where happy times are >> born! >> >> By the way, has anyone found out who has passed the v4 lab yet? I been >> googling it and found nothing, except I saw Darby Weaver failed again. I >> think that is attempt number 4 or something? >> >> -Nick >> >> --- On *Tue, 11/3/09, Routt, Rob <[email protected]>* wrote: >> >> >> From: Routt, Rob <[email protected]> >> Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_RS] When do I start the workbooks? (Senor Joe A,I >> know you have an aswer!) >> To: [email protected], [email protected], >> [email protected] >> Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 4:14 PM >> >> >> Nick, >> I would agree with Erik here, but to each his own. I only say >> this from my own personal experience. I was studying for CCIE written >> and about one month b4 my exam, I attended Narbik's bc. Great content, >> extremely humbling, but on the way home, I decided to do nothing with >> his material until I finished my written. I made the decision to sort of >> separate the two for sake of being somewhat linear and being able to >> schedule my lab once I passed the written; which did provide motivation >> to buckle down. I couldn't focus mentally on the lab topics like I >> needed to knowing that I had not cleared the written exam. >> >> I hope this helps and if your way is working for you, stick with it.. >> The worst thing you can do is take someone else's advice that ultimately >> does not work for you. >> >> -Rob >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: >> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> [mailto:[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>] >> On Behalf Of >> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:09 PM >> To: [email protected] <http://mc/[email protected]>; >> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] When do I start the workbooks? (Senor Joe >> A,I know you have an aswer!) >> >> Nick, >> >> At this point, I would concentrate on passing your Written instead of >> trying to master the configuration aspects of each technology. The CCIE >> Written is designed to test your knowledge of conceptual and "under the >> hood" aspects of the technologies - not as much of the "type this >> command here, and this here." Once you get the Written out of the way, >> you can start working on the fun stuff! I hated studying for my Written >> by the way... Exteremly boring (I thought). >> >> Obviously I am only a CCIE candidate and not a CCIE (yet), so please >> take my advice with a grain of salt! >> >> -Erik >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: >> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> [mailto:[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>] >> On Behalf Of nicholas >> golden >> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 6:06 AM >> To: >> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] When do I start the workbooks? (Senor Joe A,I >> know you have an aswer!) >> >> Hey everyone, >> I got some questions, and as many know I am a >> newbie in every sense of the word. I am getting I believe close to the >> prize as far as the CCIE RS written is concerned. >> >> Here is my approach: >> >> I ask myself : What does it take to get a basic working configuration of >> technology X? >> >> Then I set it up see how it works, read some RFC's, Doyle's bible(s). >> Once I got a basic understanding of it and use some hands on to >> reinforce my knowledge. I move on to the more advanced areas of that >> technology, watch some videos, hit cisco's website read blogs etc etc >> (endless reading/watching videos - beating the dead horse until I can >> recite in my sleep configurations and concepts!). >> >> So that's what I have been doing. I am going through the blueprint got >> the first page down cold as of last week topics 1.00 through 2.50 for >> the v4 blueprint. >> >> I started on BGP long ago with my BSCI completion several months back, >> so I am pretty comfortable with BGP at least on the basic to >> intermediate levels. >> >> Basically, I can set up the basics of most topics on the v4 blueprint >> (5.00 IP multicast, 6.00 NW and some of 8.00 QOS I can do the basics, >> but want to master it all) security, with things like EIGRP, OSPF, RIP >> really nailed down where I don't get tripped up but BGP I believe will >> ALWAYS COME AFTER ME WITH A BIG STICK. Maybe I am wrong here, but seems >> that way haha. >> >> So the question is, I really want to get the MOST out of the workbooks, >> so I just don't want to start them as I want to see them for the "First >> time" and not see the answers, if that makes sense. I want the practice >> labs to be a true "gauge" of where I am at so I don't give myself "False >> hope". I am sure from what I can tell, if you read something and you >> THINK you got it, sometimes you get tested on it and realize that you >> SUCK AT IT. >> >> So at one point does one start tackling the workbooks? I watch the VOD >> after I have gotten the basics down so I can understand what's being >> talked about. >> >> Feels good to start looking at this blueprint and not feeling like the >> devil is coming after me :) >> >> Thanks for the input, I am hoping I will start to see some blue sky >> break from the CCIE RS cloud soon! >> >> -Nick >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >> please visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > -- Regards, Joe Astorino CCIE #24347 (R&S) Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert Mailto: [email protected] Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat eFax: +1.810.454.0130 IPexpert is a premier provider of Classroom and Self-Study Cisco CCNA (R&S, Voice & Security), CCNP, CCVP, CCSP and CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & Service Provider) Certification Training with locations throughout the United States, Europe and Australia. 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