I don't think Joe's response was directed at you Eric.
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Eric Holder <[email protected]> wrote: > Wow Joe.......I don't believe I was complaining or crying. I was just > sharing my recent experience with v4 lab and believe the lab exam to be fair > and passable as I stated in my post. As a senior technical instructor for > IPExpert shouldn't you be encouraging candidates? > > > ---- Joe Astorino <[email protected]> wrote: > > ============= > People have passed. Many many people have said the lab is definitely > passable. Seriously guys -- This is what Cisco wants -- to weed out all the > people that cry and complain that oh it's too hard. Great, weed out another > candidate who doesn't have the guts or the grit to get to the top. Man up! > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Eric Holder <[email protected]> wrote: > >> All CCIE R&S candidates. I recently attempted the R&S v4 lab. It was my >> first attempt and yes I didn't pass. However, I believe the lab to be very >> passable. I did not seem limited on time, just limited on my experience >> with the obscure rarely used commands and the ability to quickly find them >> in the docs. Also to be completely honest, I needed to improve my speed on >> the basic configurations and attention to detail to give me more time for >> the real CCIE stuff. The troubleshooting section seemed very straight >> forward and didn't seem constrained on time. I believe a well prepared >> CCIE candidate should not have a problem with the troubleshooting section. >> Especially, someone who's been working and troubleshooting routing problems >> for a couple of years. Bottom line don't get discouraged. My plan for my >> second attempt is to get more 300 hours of more lab time and more experience >> finding stuff in the docs; then give it another attempt. >> >> >> >> >> ---- Carlos Valero <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> ============= >> But you really think that the new exam can be passed? >> >> I know you are goint to say "yes" >> >> But where is the proof? >> >> Who has passed yet? No one I think! >> >> I guess that's a proof that Cisco went way over the top! >> >> Reducing the time available for the exam to only 6 hours >> and then giving you just a few minutes to solve all those >> "imaginary" Troubleshooting problems, makes it more than discouraging! >> >> >> >> --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Joe Astorino <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> From: Joe Astorino <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE R&S or SP which would be better >> To: "Mustafa Yadav" <[email protected]> >> Cc: [email protected], "sebastan bach" <[email protected]> >> Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 8:00 AM >> >> >> Guys, >> >> You have to go with where your passion is, not what is the easier road : ) >> If you are working in an SP environment or you find those technologies to be >> your passion than do SP. If you are more into R&S in an enterprise network >> then go R&S. R&S will give you more updated technologies and what I believe >> to be a broader scope of technology but that it not to say that it is >> "better" or "worse" than any other track. My advice stands -- Follow your >> passion and if you work hard things will take care of themselves. >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Mustafa Yadav <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I am confused as well.Since new RS exam is getting harder to pass.But >> SP is still passable .It seems SP is a little bitr easier than SP and >> topics in SP much more popular. >> >> On the other hand finding docs,labs in RS track is easier than everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 12/29/09, sebastan bach <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > This is my first post in this mailing list. >> > >> > I already have ccie security cert with me I am planning for a dual but >> not >> > sure. I would require advise from people in this forum. I am little >> confused >> > about which track to pursue CCIE R&S or SP.The confusion is basically >> > because of MPLS being added to R&S track. and since SP track covers all >> > routing, advance routing and plus mpls in complete detail and there is >> > little investment required as we can do all labs in dynamips as of now.. >> but >> > not sure if in my journey suddenly cisco changes the lab equipment to >> > gsr/asr routers. >> > >> > With R&S i would require a good investment with regards to switches. I am >> > really not sure and i am really confused. >> > >> > Guys please send out ur opinions it would surely help me a lot. >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Sebastan >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Joe Astorino CCIE #24347 (R&S) >> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert >> Mailto: [email protected] >> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 >> Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat >> eFax: +1.810.454.0130 >> >> IPexpert is a premier provider of Classroom and Self-Study Cisco CCNA (R&S, >> Voice & Security), CCNP, CCVP, CCSP and CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & Service >> Provider) Certification Training with locations throughout the United >> States, Europe and Australia. 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