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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:00:02 
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: GNS3 question (Mitch Peterson)
   2. Re: GNS3 question (Bodnar, Edward)
   3. Re: GNS3 question ([email protected])
   4. Vol1 Lab2 Task 2.5 (FoosYou)
   5. Re: Vol1 Lab2 task 2.4 (Patrice Ngassam)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:24:12 -0400
From: Mitch Peterson <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] GNS3 question
To: [email protected]
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It depends on what you're trying to do.  If you want real switches and
virtual routers then you need one NIC per router Ethernet interface.
The problem I ran into was that I needed more NICs than I had slots in
my Dynamips server.  I have two 4 port Ethernet cards plus the two
built in cards and I still didn't have enough.  I was looking at maybe
buying some USB NICs, but I never got that far with it.

There's a pretty good tutorial at the dynagen site.  You're looking
for the section called "Communicating with Real Networks."
http://dynagen.org/tutorial.htm

> I am looking to buy some switches and connect them to my GNS3 lab 
> >environment. ?Can anybody kick me in the right direction? ?I am not sure if 
> I >need more nic cards for my PC if I do how many do I need 1 per switch ?
>


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:31:21 -0500
From: "Bodnar, Edward" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] GNS3 question
To: 'Mitch Peterson' <[email protected]>,
        "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
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Thanks Ill take a look at it.  

I think I have the general concept.  Most likely I am going to try and get 4 4 
port NIC cards.  Just don't want to pony up the $ until I know it will work.  
Ill check out that link


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mitch Peterson
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] GNS3 question

It depends on what you're trying to do.  If you want real switches and
virtual routers then you need one NIC per router Ethernet interface.
The problem I ran into was that I needed more NICs than I had slots in
my Dynamips server.  I have two 4 port Ethernet cards plus the two
built in cards and I still didn't have enough.  I was looking at maybe
buying some USB NICs, but I never got that far with it.

There's a pretty good tutorial at the dynagen site.  You're looking
for the section called "Communicating with Real Networks."
http://dynagen.org/tutorial.htm

> I am looking to buy some switches and connect them to my GNS3 lab 
> >environment. ?Can anybody kick me in the right direction? ?I am not sure if 
> I >need more nic cards for my PC if I do how many do I need 1 per switch ?
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:46:16 +0000
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] GNS3 question
To: "Bodnar, Edward" <[email protected]>,
        [email protected],    "[email protected]"
        <[email protected]>
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I was going to do 3x quad nics get some 3560s then adding it all up decided to 
go 2 for 1 rack rental. I have a rack of 9 routers mostly 3640s and 2620xms and 
a fr switch with a Single 3550 and 2x 2950s etc. I use that for core basic / 
intermediate stuff then rent online for labs.

I broke down cost several times but here is short of it
3200 usd for 4x 3560s
3200 = over 1200 hours of rack time. That's not accounting for 2 for 1 deal 
which *could* double that.....
Sooooooo if you had got 2 for 1 special and had 2400 hours that means you could 
do about a session a day every day for a year......every day.........yea.

You don't own the equipment but you get switches 2811s a 3825s and no annoying 
crap with gns3 deciding it don't want to work. I see these threads can't ping 
from r4 to r6 or serial link not working etc etc.

I say forget all that. I use gns3 but it gets annoying not being able to do 
certain things. Yes its free, but I guess I'm all about quality.

My 3cents.

-nick
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Bodnar, Edward" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 07:11:16 
To: [email protected]<[email protected]>
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] GNS3 question

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:45:57 -0400
From: FoosYou <[email protected]>
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Vol1 Lab2 Task 2.5
To: CCIE OSL <[email protected]>
Message-ID:
        <[email protected]>
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I have a couple questions about my lab last night concerning Vol1 Lab2 Task
2.5.

The task specifies that you must ensure all frames that travel across the
trunk should have a VLAN ID. After the lab I saw the solution was to use the
'vlan dot1q tag native' command but when I tried that command during the lab
I wasn't sure it was actually working. Whether or not the command was
applied it seemed I'd see the following output:

Sw1#sh int po12 sw | i Native
Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1 (default)
Administrative Native VLAN tagging: enabled

After seeing that (and not being sure it would accomplish the task
correctly) I simply removed the native vlan from being allowed across the
trunk. Would that have been an acceptable solution as well and any ideas
about the command output discrepancy?

Thanks!
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 16:47:16 +0100
From: Patrice Ngassam <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Vol1 Lab2 task 2.4
To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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I am glad you learnt that in a Lab. My experience with that was very painful, I 
was upgrading a Datacenter and I tried to to connect the FE interface of 3745 
to the fiber module on 6509. I could not figure it out during my change window 
and I was blaming the wiring guy for wrong x-connect on the bix wall (A fluke 
test was done, but I did not trust it). That's how I learnt I could not change 
the speed on fiber SFP on 6509. No matter what, I will not try again on any 
platform.

Question: I could not use etherchannel between 2 FE ports on 3745 and 6504. Is 
that a hardware limitation on that platform (3745)? I tried it in my lab on 
2811 and 3750 no problem, but for some reason I could not have my L3 
etherchannel in an up/up state on 3745.

Patrice Ngassam
Ceritified Cisco CCNP, CCDP, CCIP




Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:10:55 -0400
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
CC: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Vol1 Lab2 task 2.4

Yea, just labbed it up on my own 3750's and no dice on setting the speed for 
the gig SFP port. 

Sw1(config-if)#speed ?
  nonegotiate  Do not negotiate speed

Which leaves it freaking out about the speed mismatch:


17w2d: FEC: pagp_switch_agc_compatable: comparing GC values of Gi1/0/4 Fa1/0/47 
flag = 1 1
17w2d: FEC: pagp_switch_port_attrib_diff: compare PAgP modes for Gi1/0/4
17w2d: FEC: pagp_switch_port_attrib_diff: Gi1/0/4 Fa1/0/47 same

17w2d: FEC: pagp_switch_agc_compatable: EC - attrib incompatable for Gi1/0/4; 
speed of Gi1/0/4 is 1000M, Fa1/0/47 is 100M
17w2d: FEC: pagp_switch_choose_unique: Gi1/0/4, port Fa1/0/47 in agport Po12 is 
incompatable


So where does that leave me for what this task requires? Disable the gig port? 
Also, should we also be worried that Cisco can't spell 'incompatible' ?



On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> wrote:

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 17:58, FoosYou <[email protected]> wrote:


> I assumed you couldn't based on them needing to be the same speed and

> duplex. Also assumed that by speed they meant the hardware and not the

> 'speed' command. Guess I'll be seeing if those bundle together!



You assumed well. Now, I must state one thing here. The behavior

depending on the "speed" command is hardware-based. On 3560s, you

can't change speed of SFP GigE ports. On some platforms you can and on

those platforms, given everything else matches, you can bundle them in

EC.



[ We need to clarify this lab, though. Again, nice catch. ]



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