It might not be very exciting having redundant power, but the fireworks in the CEO/HR/IT office is when you need to explain why they have a site down!
Also - whoever was after the 6513 - be careful as only half your slots are dual fabric. PS this has been my favourite thread on here for a while ;) Cheers, Matt CCIE #22386 CCSI #31207 On 10 July 2010 15:21, Chadwick L. Allison <[email protected]> wrote: > This is a long thread but some times you have to bite the bullet and spend > money on things that just aren't very exciting ie. redundant power! I've > been there done that. About the most exciting part was plugging in the > management cable! WAHOOOO! > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Di Bias, Steve" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 11:15 PM > To: "Matt Hill" <[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] OT: Cisco Catalyst 3750-X series?? > >> The only way to power all 9 at the same time requires an XPS be installed, >> otherwise the maximum you can have is four. Either way though you are right >> and I agree with you 100%! The whole purpose of this technology is for >> redundancy, if you choose to have two power supplies in the master and no >> power supplies in the others you will be in a world of hurt when you lose a >> power supply, and probably lose most of your stack! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Matt Hill [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:05 PM >> To: Di Bias, Steve >> Cc: Mark Beynon; Tyson Scott; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] OT: Cisco Catalyst 3750-X series?? >> >> I am not familiar with the power stacking but you can bet your arse that >> you should have a "PS required +1" number ob PSUs in the stack. Your 9 >> switches may be able run off three PSUs but if one blows up you all of a >> sudden have a down stack. I'd be adding the extra one all the time. Unless >> I have this completely wrong ;) >> >> Cheers, >> Matt >> >> CCIE #22386 >> CCSI #31207 >> >> >> On 10 July 2010 08:34, Di Bias, Steve <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Right so if you had 9 switches in your stack and decided to utilize >>> StackPower as well you would end up with 3 StackPower stacks within you >>> StackWise stack. >>> >>> Phew, that's a lot of stacks in this email! >>> >>> Steve Di Bias >>> Network Engineer - Information Systems Valley Health System - Las >>> Vegas Office - 702- 369-7594 Cell - 702-241-1801 >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Mark Beynon [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 3:10 PM >>> To: Di Bias, Steve >>> Cc: Matt Hill; Tyson Scott; [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] OT: Cisco Catalyst 3750-X series?? >>> >>> True, but the stack wise and stack power are independant, so you could >>> still stack all 9 switches with stack wise whilst powering them as >>> three stacks. >>> >>> Or atleast that is what we are told. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 8 Jul 2010, at 15:53, "Di Bias, Steve" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> One other caveat is that StackPower supports up to four switches >>>> only, whereas the StackWise technology supports up to nine devices >>>> per stack. So, there could be scenarios where you could have two >>>> StackPower stacks within the same StackWise group of switches, >>>> assuming you have more than 4 in an IDF. >>>> >>>> Luckily for me most of the IDF's have between 2 and 3 48 port >>>> switches, but good info incase others are considering the x series >>>> >>>> Steve Di Bias >>>> Network Engineer - Information Systems >>>> Valley Health System - Las Vegas >>>> Office - 702- 369-7594 >>>> Cell - 702-241-1801 >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Matt Hill [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:18 PM >>>> To: Tyson Scott >>>> Cc: Di Bias, Steve; Bill; [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] OT: Cisco Catalyst 3750-X series?? >>>> >>>> I agree with the 3750X as it appears "on paper". >>>> >>>> As always with a v1.0 Caveat Emptor... Of course this wont matter >>>> when in 3 months when the IOS gets its first .1 release :) >>>> >>>> If it is power redundancy you are after then your 4500s certainly give >>>> you that. Then again you say you are using 3 x switches in each >>>> stack. That means you would have a whole 4506 taking up all those RU >>>> (with two empty slots and no no failed supervisor redundancy) when >>>> your 3x3750X will be taking up far less real estate! With >>>> "supervisor" (stack master) redundancy too... >>>> >>>> My cursory pros & cons list leans me towards 3750X. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Matt >>>> >>>> CCIE #22386 >>>> CCSI #31207 >>>> >>>> >>>> On 8 July 2010 07:09, Tyson Scott <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Fixed Chassis is always cheaper and the specs on the 3750X switches >>>>> is very >>>>> good. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP >>>>> >>>>> Managing Partner / Sr. Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. >>>>> >>>>> Mailto: [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 208 >>>>> >>>>> Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat >>>>> >>>>> eFax: +1.810.454.0130 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> IPexpert is a premier provider of Self-Study Workbooks, Video on >>>>> Demand, >>>>> Audio Tools, Online Hardware Rental and Classroom Training for the >>>>> Cisco >>>>> CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & Service Provider) certification(s) with >>>>> training locations throughout the United States, Europe, South Asia >>>>> and >>>>> Australia. Be sure to visit our online communities at >>>>> www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at www.ipexpert.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Di Bias, >>>>> Steve >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:04 PM >>>>> To: Bill; [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] OT: Cisco Catalyst 3750-X series?? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From what I can tell it supports IEEE 802.3af PoE+. Depending upon >>>>> the >>>>> wattage of the power supplies you buy you can actually do up to 30W >>>>> of power >>>>> per port! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Stev >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> From: Bill [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:53 PM >>>>> To: Di Bias, Steve; [email protected] >>>>> Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_RS] OT: Cisco Catalyst 3750-X series?? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Do the new 3750-X support Enhanced POE for the new devices? That >>>>> was a key >>>>> feature that the 4500's supported. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Di Bias, >>>>> Steve >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:46 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] OT: Cisco Catalyst 3750-X series?? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hey everyone, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I was considering replacing some of our 3750 stacks with 4506-E's >>>>> but our >>>>> Cisco rep suggested we take a look at the *new* 3750-X series >>>>> instead. I'm >>>>> really interested in the new StackPower capabilities which gives >>>>> you power >>>>> redundancy within the stack. Also the power supplies are modular >>>>> with two >>>>> slots on each chassis. The uplink modules are also modular allowing >>>>> for 2 >>>>> 10gbE or 4 10GbE uplink ports. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Has anyone seen these things in action yet? Any recommendations as to >>>>> staying with the 3750-X series or moving to a single 4506 chassis >>>>> for IDF's >>>>> that have 3 or more switches in the stack? Thanks in advance! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Steve Di Bias >>>>> >>>>> Network Engineer >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> UHS Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any >>>>> attachments, >>>>> is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain >>>>> confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, >>>>> use, >>>>> disclosure or distribution of this information is prohibited, and >>>>> may be >>>>> punishable by law. 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