Well, you are technically right about the wildcard/mask thing. DSG way it would 
be valid for any neighbor. But I doubt this would help me on the exam. :) It 
seems we have to have almost mind-reading capabilities in order to type the 
commands expected.

Thanks for the clarification about the distance...

Best Regards,

Bojan Zivancevic
Network Engineer

From: Tyson Scott [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 19:25
To: Bojan Zivancevic; 'CCIE_RS OnlineStudyList'
Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_RS] vol.1 task 8.13 problem (route poisoning)

Well I would say your answer is more accurate but the answer in the book is 
still OK.

As Cisco will hold the route in the table until it confirms the other route is 
stable and more preferred what you are seeing is the expected behavior.  You 
are not getting another route to replace it or it would remove it on the second 
update and only hold the old one in the RIP database until it expires.

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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bojan Zivancevic
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 12:34 PM
To: 'CCIE_RS OnlineStudyList'
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] vol.1 task 8.13 problem (route poisoning)

First, I think there is an error in DSG. Second, I stumbled into an interesting 
behavior of the "distance" command.

This is a task about RIP route poisoning. We can go for offset-list method or 
distance one. The WB goes for distance, ok.

DSG says that we should enter "distance 255 150.100.12.2 255.255.255.255 1" 
which IMHO is wrong. The context help and command reference agree that we 
should enter wilcard there, and not the subnet mask. So, it should be 
"150.100.12.2 0.0.0.0".

That can be confirmed with "sh run | i distance" which then show that the 
router automatically converted the distance command into "distance 255 0.0.0.0 
255.255.255.255 1" because of the "ANY" wildcard used.

So, I think it is definite that we should use wildcard. Anyway, I tried it this 
way and it worked. But...

Now, about the second part of my email. I would really love somebody to explain 
why is this happening.

When I corrected the "distance" command, I noticed that the update timer has 
not been reset anymore. The route just slowly started to dissapear. That 
confused me and I thought all this is not working. That is why I changed the 
distance to "254" in order to be able to see the route in the table even after 
the command. All other routes behaved normal, just this one. So, i chose to 
wait and saw that the distance command did have the effect, but only after the 
flush timer has expired, the route got deleted from the table, and another RIP 
update came after that. Only then the AD got changed to 254... Why the router 
is not changing the distance immediately after the next RIP update? Why the 
flush timer and all?

See for yourself:

R1(config-router)#do sho access-l 1
Standard IP access list 1
    10 permit 200.0.0.9 (75 matches)
R1(config-router)#do sh run | i dista
 distance 254 150.100.12.2 0.0.0.0 1

.... and we still have the old "120" distance...
R1(config-router)#do sro 200.0.0.9
Routing entry for 200.0.0.9/32
  Known via "rip", distance 120, metric 3
  Redistributing via rip
  Last update from 150.100.12.2 on FastEthernet0/0, 00:00:28 ago
..... time is passing...
R1(config-router)#do sro 200.0.0.9
Routing entry for 200.0.0.9/32
  Known via "rip", distance 120, metric 3
  Redistributing via rip
  Last update from 150.100.12.2 on FastEthernet0/0, 00:02:54 ago
... some more...
R1(config-router)#do sro 200.0.0.9
Routing entry for 200.0.0.9/32
  Known via "rip", distance 120, metric 4294967295 (inaccessible)
  Redistributing via rip
  Last update from 150.100.12.2 on FastEthernet0/0, 00:04:01 ago
.... and here it is, the new AD...
R1(config-router)#do sro 200.0.0.9
Routing entry for 200.0.0.9/32
  Known via "rip", distance 254, metric 3
  Redistributing via rip
  Last update from 150.100.12.2 on FastEthernet0/0, 00:00:20 ago


Best Regards,

Bojan Zivancevic
Network Engineer
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