Congrats on the pass.  I would have to wholeheartedly agree with you
about Routing Bits.  Excellent review material.

Cody

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Jay Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> Work full time, live with my awesome, extremely supportive girlfriend and we
> have no kids.
>
> I've probably averaged about 40hrs per week of study for a little over a
> year now. Started to take the study seriously in Jan 2010. I'd normally get
> about 4hrs out of my rack session on a weeknight... in the beginning that
> was 2-3 nights a week but towards the end it was 5 nights a week, every
> week. Weekends I would try to use the whole 8hr rack session... in the
> beginning I'd do either Sat or Sun but at the end it was both days. Also
> near the end I'd book double rack sessions on the weekends. I'd never use
> the full 16 hours but I liked to have it available the whole day so I could
> lab things when I wanted to. I'm definitely not a night person and I can
> probably count the number of days I studied past midnight on 1 hand.
>
> I did all of the Vol1 labs at least 3 times... topics I sucked at I probably
> did them 4-5 times. Most of the Vol3 labs I did 2-3 times and the OWLE labs
> probably twice. I never opened a single Vol2 lab.
>
> In the beginning I used the VoD/AoD a lot. The AoD was used less and less as
> I progressed for a couple reasons... 1 being a short commute and the other
> being that commute was one of my few breaks where I could listen to music
> and zone out a bit. I used the VoD in the beginning but it didn't take long
> for that to be a slow way of learning. I'd go back to topics I was weak on
> from time to time but for most of the VoD material I probably only watched
> it once.
>
> One resource I picked up at the end of my studies and found very helpful was
> the routing-bits.com handbook. Awesome set of notes that really helped my
> final review. I read over that 350pg guide over the course of 2 weeks before
> my lab and it really made me remember some things I had forgotten about.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Di Bias, Steve 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hey Jay,
>>
>> Can you elaborate on what your studies consisted of? Do you work full time?
>> Married? Kids? How many hours per day, did you ever sleep? How about
>> comparisons between IPX Vol1 VS vol2, VS vol3? Did you use the BLS
>> VOD/AOD's? I'm just curious about the whole process you followed to see if
>> it's on par with what I'm doing. Thanks!
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Steve Di Bias
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Jay Taylor
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:34 PM
>> To: Marko Milivojevic
>> Cc: CCIE OSL
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Lab experience
>>
>> Luckily Proctorlabs has a remote controlled power supply but since the lab
>> does not I would recommend knowing how to both boot and reload from rommon.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]
>> >wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > That's what we do in ProctorLabs every day, I'm afraid :-)
>> >
>> > --
>> > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>> > Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>> >
>> > FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>> >
>> > Mailto: [email protected]
>> > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
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>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:30, Jay Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Reboot it until it does.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:59 PM, marc abel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> So what do you do when the router can't see the flash?
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Marko Milivojevic
>> >>> <[email protected]>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > It's a complaint about R2 in ProctorLabs, which has chronic
>> >>> > problem of sometimes not booting and requiring either to be
>> >>> > initialized or power
>> >>> cycled
>> >>> > to do so.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > --
>> >>> > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>> >>> > Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>> >>> >
>> >>> > FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Mailto: [email protected]
>> >>> > Telephone: <%2B1.810.326.1444> <%2B1.810.326.1444>+1.810.326.1444
>> >>> > Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:19, Liqua
>> >>> > <[email protected]>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Congrats - Nice write up, plus you deserve a beer or two after that.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Perhaps being dumb (and hope it's not NDA) but what does "had a
>> >>> >> router
>> >>> pull
>> >>> >> an 'R2' on me" mean please ?  What's an R2 ?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Liqua.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> --- On Wed, 16/3/11, Jay Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> From: Jay Taylor <[email protected]>
>> >>> >> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Lab experience
>> >>> >> To: "CCIE OSL" <[email protected]>,
>> >>> >> [email protected]
>> >>> >> Date: Wednesday, 16 March, 2011, 15:41
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Pi day (3/14) was good to me; I passed the routing and switching
>> >>> >> lab
>> >>> to get
>> >>> >> my digits! CCIE #28391
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I stayed at Comfort Suites this time rather than the Wingate next
>> >>> >> door
>> >>> and
>> >>> >> was happy I switched. Much nicer hotel - cleaner/newer room,
>> >>> >> better breakfast and free beer from 5-7pm (Mon, Tue and Wed only
>> >>> >> I think.)
>> >>> They
>> >>> >> will shuttle you to other nearby places but I didn't ask about
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> lab.
>> >>> >> Regardless, I recommend renting a car so you don't have to rely
>> >>> >> on
>> >>> someone
>> >>> >> else on such an important day.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Overall I felt my lab this time was more difficult than last time
>> >>> >> but
>> >>> I was
>> >>> >> more prepared. Strange how a day can feel like it is dragging on
>> >>> forever
>> >>> >> yet
>> >>> >> going by so quickly at the same time. I felt much more rushed on
>> >>> >> this attempt and was very aware of the clock throughout the whole
>> >>> >> day. For
>> >>> my
>> >>> >> last attempt I also said that I was having fun for about 75% of
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> day and
>> >>> >> that was not the case this time. I had a number of times during
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> day
>> >>> >> where I was rather stressed about either mistakes I'd made or not
>> >>> being
>> >>> >> able
>> >>> >> to think through the solution I wanted to use.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I struggled more with the troubleshooting section this time than
>> >>> before and
>> >>> >> ended with only 2-3 minutes to spare (after 1 round of verifying
>> >>> >> all
>> >>> the
>> >>> >> tickets at the end.) One good thing about the TS section now is
>> >>> >> Cisco
>> >>> is
>> >>> >> VERY clear about what you need to accomplish in order to consider
>> >>> >> a
>> >>> ticket
>> >>> >> solved. Even so, there were a couple tickets that I felt I made
>> >>> >> too
>> >>> drastic
>> >>> >> of changes to fix the problem and wasn't sure if I'd get the
>> >>> >> points
>> >>> for
>> >>> >> them. Even though my solution matched the output they wanted I
>> >>> wouldn't be
>> >>> >> surprised at all if I missed points on those.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Config section was more complicated than my first attempt but
>> >>> >> there
>> >>> was
>> >>> >> nothing in there that I had absolutely no idea how to accomplish.
>> >>> There
>> >>> >> were
>> >>> >> several topics I needed help from the DocCD and I asked the
>> >>> >> proctor
>> >>> quite a
>> >>> >> few questions again. I got off to a fairly slow start and by
>> >>> >> lunchtime wasn't even done with IGP config. After lunch it felt
>> >>> >> like things were
>> >>> just
>> >>> >> getting worse as I struggled with a couple sections and started
>> >>> >> making
>> >>> some
>> >>> >> really stupid typos. In the end I had to scrap all my BGP config
>> >>> >> and
>> >>> start
>> >>> >> over due to non-technical mistakes. By then I was freaking out
>> >>> >> pretty
>> >>> bad
>> >>> >> and before starting BGP over I took a bathroom break and tried to
>> >>> 'reset'
>> >>> >> myself. I pushed through the rest of the routing config and by
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> time I
>> >>> >> started on services and misc topics I didn't think I had enough
>> >>> >> time
>> >>> to
>> >>> >> finish. Somehow I was able to knock all those tasks out in a
>> >>> >> pretty
>> >>> short
>> >>> >> amount of time and still had an hour left to verify. Line by line
>> >>> >> I
>> >>> went
>> >>> >> through the entire lab and verified points for each section. In
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> end
>> >>> >> there were a couple tasks that I wasn't sure if I'd get points
>> >>> >> for but
>> >>> the
>> >>> >> rest I felt very good about. I did go back and change a few
>> >>> >> things in
>> >>> that
>> >>> >> last hour and had a freak out moment in the last 15 minutes when
>> >>> >> I
>> >>> couldn't
>> >>> >> get something working again that I tried to fix. That last change
>> >>> >> took
>> >>> me
>> >>> >> right up until the last 5 minutes.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> You hear it all the time from IPexpert instructors and I can't
>> >>> >> stress
>> >>> this
>> >>> >> enough - READ THE ENTIRE LAB BEFORE YOU START. Tasks at the end
>> >>> >> can
>> >>> have a
>> >>> >> big impact on how you do things early on. If you don't read the
>> >>> >> whole
>> >>> thing
>> >>> >> you will likely be rebuilding some of the basics to allow later
>> >>> >> tasks
>> >>> to
>> >>> >> work correctly.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Two things that stood out to me about my lab day:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>    1. Had a router pull an 'R2' on me twice throughout the day when
>> I
>> >>> >>    rebooted it. The proctor was clear that this was my problem to
>> >>> >> fix
>> >>> even
>> >>> >> when
>> >>> >>    the router didn't recognize it's flash memory.
>> >>> >>    2. A task was worded using KB for a function that clearly
>> >>> >> required
>> >>> Kb. I
>> >>> >>    asked the proctor a couple times and she insisted that I
>> >>> >> should configure it
>> >>> >>    as if it requested Kb. I almost started the task by converting
>> >>> bytes to
>> >>> >> bits
>> >>> >>    and that would have been completely wrong based on what I was
>> told.
>> >>> >> After
>> >>> >>    the lab she agreed with me that the lab wording is misleading.
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