A point-to-point subinterface doesn't need any frame map statements and will
send everything out the configured DLCI without using Inv ARP.


On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Carlos Valero <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> I hope somebody can help me with a F/R Basic question
>
> By the way, I think I know F/R quite well, since I've gone over ALL F/R Lab
> scenarios in all 3 Work Books (Vols I, II & III)
>
> And yet, a simple question that I saw somewhere caught me off guard.
>
> The question was:
>
> *Configure F/R without "frame map" statements without using Inv. ARP.*
>
> I don't know, I guess I'm too tired to think.
>
> But as fas a I know, when disable Inv. ARP, then all mapping have to be
> done manually, which means using frame map statements.
>
> The alternative would be using frame-interface-dlci commands
> but that does require Inv. ARP, correct?
>
> So c*onfiguring F/R without frame maps and without using Inv. ARP, seems
> to be a little bit odd.*
>
> What am I missing?
>
> I'm sure the answer/solution is quite simple, but frankly I can't come up
> with it.
>
> So I hope somebody helps.
>
> Thanks!!
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 1/20/11, Tyson Scott <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Tyson Scott <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS
> mandatory?
> To: "'Bojan Zivancevic'" <[email protected]>, "'Jay Taylor'" <
> [email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 12:38 PM
>
> I would be cautious to take that approach
>
> Regards,
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
> [mailto:[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>]
> On Behalf Of Bojan Zivancevic
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:49 AM
> To: Jay Taylor
> Cc: 
> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS
> mandatory?
>
> "I do know that should I encounter MLPPPoFR on my next lab attempt I'll be
> enabling FRTS regardless!"
>
> I'll subscribe to that. :)
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Bojan Zivancevic
> Network Engineer
> ----
>
> From: Jay Taylor 
> [mailto:[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
> ]
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 16:00
> To: Bojan Zivancevic
> Cc: Nicolas MICHEL; 
> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS
> mandatory?
>
> I do know that should I encounter MLPPPoFR on my next lab attempt I'll be
> enabling FRTS regardless!
>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Bojan Zivancevic
> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>>>
> wrote:
> Yeah, connectivity works, that's for sure. That is why I asked the question
> in the first place - you just can't be sure what FRTS brings.
>
> But you have a point, since LFI is a part of QoS, guess in order for it to
> work in this situation you need FRTS - for some reason behind the scene.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Bojan Zivancevic
> Network Engineer
> ----
>
> From: Jay Taylor 
> [mailto:[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected] <http://mc/[email protected]>>]
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 15:43
> To: Bojan Zivancevic
> Cc: Nicolas MICHEL;
> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
> >
>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS
> mandatory?
>
> I agree though... basic connectivity works without FTRS enabled. I would
> imagine that fragmenting and interleaving would not though.
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Bojan Zivancevic
> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>>>
> wrote:
> Maybe exactly the fact it is in the QoS section means that FRTS has to be
> enabled. :)
>
> And btw it is mentioned in the document, but not explained why. Bah. Cisco
> doc often sucks on my opinion.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Bojan Zivancevic
> Network Engineer
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> From: Nicolas MICHEL
> [mailto:[email protected] <http://mc/[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected] <http://mc/[email protected]>
> >]
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 15:20
> To: Jay Taylor
> Cc: Bojan Zivancevic;
> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
> >
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS
> mandatory?
>
> Cant beleive MLPPPoFR is on the QOS section ... I wouldnt have find it
> without your help Jay !
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> 2011/1/20 Jay Taylor 
> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected] <http://mc/[email protected]>>>
> MLPPPoFR is a royal pain to find... Good stuff to know though! QoS config
> guide - http://grab.by/8u9e
>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/docs/ios/qos/configuration/guide/mlppp_o
> ver_fr_ps6441_TSD_Products_Configuration_Guide_Chapter.html
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Bojan Zivancevic
> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
> >
> > wrote:
>
> > One more dilemma on my side...
> >
> > When I try to enable multilink ppp over FR (virtual-templates blablabla)
> I
> > always get the message
> >
> > %FR-3-MLPOFR_ERROR: MLPoFR not configured properly on Link
> Virtual-Access1
> > Bundle Virtual-Access3 :
> > Frame Relay traffic shaping must be enabled
> >
> > I know I have read somewhere that this message should be ignored and that
> > in fact MLPPP works without it over FR. But now I can't find it.
> >
> > And I did not find a sure way to check if it is working or not. Can
> > somebody confirm FRTS must be applied or not, and it would be great if
> > someone could explain how to verify if MLPPP is really working (with or
> > without FRTS.)
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Bojan Zivancevic
> > Network Engineer
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