That changes things. From a memory and CPU standpoint, the BGP
sessions/tables alone that should have been no problem for that router, but
3 100Mb connections is really toward the upper limit of what the 3945 can
do anyway (the semi-secret router performance.pdf doc puts raw CEF
forwarding for that box at about 500 Mb/s, which you could theoretically
exceed with 600 Mb of potential load), and those best-case numbers fall
quickly when you add crypto, inspection and IPS.

As another poster said, it depends on your design but I wouldn't say the
3945e can't handle a full Internet table.

I've always said: I like that IOS can do so many different functions,
however I don't think it should be doing them all at once. I prefer
dedicated firewalls at a large site that would be taking hundreds of Mb/s
of Internet. A branch office on a broadband or T1 may be a different story.
Those throughput/crypto/IPS requirements would have been handled easily by
a mid-range ASA with AIP IPS module.

Still an interesting data point on just what one of these boxes really can
do though.


On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Michael Davis - Webquor <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I didn't have time to try another iOS.  We had 3 peers with 100mb
> connection to each.  We couldn't get the router to process any connection
> beyond about 10mb.  It was terrible.
> We were also terminating 300 IPSec tunnels, with Zbf and IPS running.  How
> much can one router bear?
> You want the router to be able to perform multiple functions, the full
> routing table seemed to put a lot of load on ours.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 23/06/2012, at 12:42 PM, "Bob McCouch" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > What?! I do full tables from multiple peers on a 3845 or 3945
> > regularly. I've done full tables from 1 iBGP peer and 1 eBGP peer on
> > 2921s quite a number of times too in a simple dual-homed, dual-router
> > design.
> >
> > I will admit to never having done IPv6 routes in BGP, and the route
> > entries are larger but what's the entire IPv6 table size, 20k prefixes
> > or something?
> >
> > Cisco's recommendation is 512 MB to do full IPv4 tables, though they
> > don't spec how many copies that includes. Soft-config will increase
> > the memory requirement.
> >
> > I've received full routes on a 2621 with 256 of RAM as well but I had
> > to disable soft-reconfig and filter the table down to /15 and shorter
> > prefixes to keep it stable ;-)
> >
> > If you crashed a 3945e with a full route table, you hit a bug. That's
> > all I can fathom.
> >
> >
> > Bob
> > --
> > Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any typos.
> >
> > On Jun 22, 2012, at 10:21 PM, Michael Davis - Webquor
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> I downloaded the full BGP table to a 3945e and crashed it...  Badly.
> >> Then tried on our ASR1k and it worked though we went For connected ISP
> routes as it was noticeably slower.  My guess is you would need an ASR 9k.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On 23/06/2012, at 11:04 AM, "Jason Maynard" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> This may not be directly related to the lab but it is relevant in
> >>> understanding Cisco platforms and BGP requirements.
> >>>
> >>> What is the smallest router to hold the entire BGP internet table and
> which
> >>> platfom is ideal? both IPv4 and IPv6 and you must consider route
> >>> manipulation
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