Hi all

>From this mail, I understand that ASA does not decrement TTL.

If I configure EBGP, across an ASA the neigbhors connection is not
esatablished unless I configure "ebgp-multihop 2". This means TTL is
decremented by one right?

Does ASA decrement TTL by one as router do?


Am I missing something?


With regards
Kings

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:06 AM, Paul Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:

> The question asks the make sure the inside hosts can successfully
> traceroute to device on the drawing.  I guess my question is centered around
> the interpretation of what a successful traceroute actually is.  If a
> successful traceroute is one that shows an IP address from each layer 3 hop,
> then we have to decrement packets traversing the ASA's.  If not, then its
> not necessary.  I really think it could go either way and would probably ask
> the proctor if the ASAs themselves should be visible in the traceroute or
> not.
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Tyson Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  But Paul the question doesn’t ask anything about this.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
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>> *From:* Paul Stewart [mailto:[email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 07, 2009 4:00 PM
>> *To:* Tyson Scott
>> *Cc:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Security] Traceroute through ASA
>>
>>
>>
>> Traceroute is only sent out as a type 8 from certain operating systems.
>> Cisco IOS uses UDP port 33434 for traceroute.  Many UNIX operating systems
>> use UDP as well.  The relevancy of this is only in what type of icmp
>> response is produced.  ICMP produces a standard time-exceeded (11/0), where
>> udp produces a port unreachable (3/3).  My question is as to the
>> transparency of the ASA to a traceroute.  To make the ASA itself visible in
>> a traceroute you have to decrement the TTL.  This is not done by default.
>> The way to do this is shown at the URL below.
>>
>>
>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/vpndevc/ps2030/products_tech_note09186a0080094e8a.shtml#asatrace
>>
>> Under "make the firewall show up in a traceroute" you will find the
>> following in addition to permitting icmp 11/0 and 3/3
>>
>> ciscoasa(config)#class-map class-default
>> ciscoasa(config)#match any
>>
>> !--- This class-map exists by default.
>> ciscoasa(config)#policy-map global_policy
>>
>> !--- This Policy-map exists by default.
>> ciscoasa(config-pmap)#class class-default
>>
>> !--- Add another class-map to this policy.
>> ciscoasa(config-pmap-c)#set connection decrement-ttl
>>
>> !--- Decrement the IP TTL field for packets traversing the firewall.
>> !--- By default, the TTL is not decrement hiding (somewhat) the firewall.
>> ciscoasa(config-pmap-c)#exit
>> ciscoasa(config-pmap)#exit
>> ciscoasa(config)#service-policy global_policy global
>>
>> !--- This service-policy exists by default.
>> WARNING: Policy map global_policy is already configured as a service
>> policy
>>
>> ciscoasa(config)#icmp unreachable rate-limit 10 burst-size 5
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Tyson Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Paul,
>>
>>
>>
>> By default the ASA will block traceroute.  traceroute is sent out with
>> ICMP type 8 but will respond back with ICMP type 3 and 11.  Test by sending
>> a traceroute and see the traffic drop.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Paul Stewart
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 07, 2009 1:50 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_Security] Traceroute through ASA
>>
>>
>>
>> By default the ASA is transparent to a traceroute due to the fact that it
>> does not decrement the TTL.  In Vol 2, Lab 11 section 1.3-4 it specifies
>> that inside hosts should be able to "successfully" traceroute to devices on
>> the drawing.  What are the thoughts on using the method below to make the
>> ASA visible?  In my opinion, it is a gray area, but a successful traceroute
>> should show the layer 3 devices.
>>
>> policy-map global_policy
>>  class class-default
>>   set connection decrement-ttl
>>
>>
>>
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