Kings - So that is pretty much my understanding, which is a good thing.
Now on to bandwidth policing....

 

If I had a policy that restricted telnet to 40Kbps.

 

With QoS pre-classify - encryption is completed last so that my actual
telnet bandwidth is 40Kbps. Sent to the output queue where it's
encrypted and sent on its way?

 

Without QoS pre-classify - encryption is done first, so I would need to
mark the telnet traffic (DSCP or ToS). It's then encrypted with IP
header info preserved and given 40Kbps (including crypto overhead).
Which means that I really don't have 40Kbps reserved for telnet -
correct?

 

Just trying to make sure my understanding is correct. 

 

Regards,

 

Matt Blake

 

From: Kingsley Charles [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:36 AM
To: Matt Blake
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Security] QoS pre-classify

 

Hi Matt

 

With IPSec, the ToS value is copied to the new IP header but the other
information is hidden. Let's say there is a QoS policy that says that
telnet traffic should get 40 Kbps BW.

 

 

With IPSec VPN, the payload is encrypted and hence the router will not
be able to identify which type of traffic is inside the VPN packet. 

 

Thereby the QoS policy of identifying telnet traffic won't work.

 

With QoS pre-classify, the classification is done before encryption and
hence, QoS action can be taken.

 

Without QoS-preclassify, you can just classify the VPN packet based on
the ToS or DSCP value.

 

 

 

With regards

Kings

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 2:51 AM, Matt Blake <[email protected]>
wrote:

All,

 

Would the 2 statements below be 100% accurate

 

With QoS pre-classify encryption happens last so that if it's necessary
to use TCP / UDP header information to apply QoS parameters it will be
done prior to encryption.

 

Without QoS pre-classify encryption is done first and the DSCP / ToS
bits in the original IP header are preserved. No option to use layer 4
information for QoS.

 

Also:

 

I know that the actual reserved bandwidth differs between the two. Does
anyone have a quick link (or explanation) on why this is the case? It
has to do with the IPSec overhead but does it impact the actual
bandwidth used if doing policing? Or will you be able to forward less
"actual" traffic because of the overhead and the used bandwidth is the
same regardless. 

 

-          Matt

 


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