Hi Piotr

When we use ttl security, bgp sends ttl starting with 255 right? How come it
will be "2"?


With regards
Kings

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Piotr Matusiak <[email protected]> wrote:

> Kings,
>
> The packet sourced from the router will NOT decrement TTL, hence in this
> case the eBGP packet will be sourced with TTL=2. The receiving router will
> decrement TTL by 1 when receiving the packet and route it further to the
> loopback interface. The packet MUST have TTL=>1 to be accepted as the
> general networking rule says: "drop packets with TTL=0 and send an ICMP
> error packet back".
>
> HTH,
> Piotr
>
>
> 2010/5/21 Kingsley Charles <[email protected]>
>
>> Hi Tyson
>>
>> Though a loopback, since the packet comes from the same router, will the
>> router, decrement the ttl?
>>
>> Also when it reaches the peer router, it goes to the control plane
>> directly, ttl won't be also decremented on the peer. ttl will be decremented
>> only after the routing right?
>>
>> Hence, if a ttl of 225 is sent from router A in the bgp packet to the
>> peer, it would be still 255.
>>
>> I think, I am really missing something here.
>>
>>
>> Can you please explain, with this configuration what will be the ttl value
>> be when the bgp packet reaches the peer and how was it arrived at?
>>
>>
>>
>> With regards
>> Kings
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Tyson Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  With one, which is what it is by default, it would be 254.  Remember
>>> loopbacks are 1 hop away so you need the ttl to be 2.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Kingsley
>>> Charles
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 20, 2010 3:49 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_Security] bgp with ttl security
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Router A and B are directly connected and the bgp are peered to
>>> loopbacks.
>>>
>>> To make it work, we need to configure *ebgp-multihop 2 *on both* *sides.
>>>
>>> For me here it works with ttl-security hops 2.
>>>
>>> I thought it should work with ttl-security hops 1.
>>>
>>> With this configuration, what is the ttl value in the bgp packet sent to
>>> each other.
>>>
>>> Will it be 254 or 253?
>>>
>>>
>>> *router A*
>>>
>>> router bgp 4
>>>  no synchronization
>>>  bgp log-neighbor-changes
>>>  neighbor 150.1.3.3 remote-as 7
>>>  neighbor 150.1.3.3 ttl-security hops 2
>>>  neighbor 150.1.3.3 update-source Loopback0
>>>  no auto-summary
>>>
>>> interface FastEthernet0/0
>>>  ip address 136.1.0.2 255.255.255.0
>>>  ip flow ingress
>>>  duplex auto
>>>  speed auto
>>>
>>> interface Loopback0
>>>  ip address 150.1.2.2 255.255.255.0
>>>
>>>
>>> sh ip bgp neighbors o/p
>>>
>>> Connection state is ESTAB, I/O status: 1, unread input bytes: 0
>>> Connection is ECN Disabled, Mininum incoming TTL 253, Outgoing TTL 255
>>> Local host: 150.1.2.2, Local port: 49810
>>>
>>> *Router B*
>>>
>>> router bgp 7
>>>  no synchronization
>>>  bgp log-neighbor-changes
>>>  neighbor 150.1.2.2 remote-as 4
>>>  neighbor 150.1.2.2 ttl-security hops 2
>>>  neighbor 150.1.2.2 update-source Loopback0
>>>  no auto-summary
>>>
>>> interface FastEthernet0/0
>>>  ip address 136.1.0.3 255.255.255.0
>>>  duplex auto
>>>  speed auto
>>>
>>> interface Loopback0
>>>  ip address 150.1.3.3 255.255.255.0
>>>
>>> sh ip bgp neighbors o/p
>>>
>>> Connection state is ESTAB, I/O status: 1, unread input bytes: 0
>>> Connection is ECN Disabled, Mininum incoming TTL 253, Outgoing TTL 255
>>> Local host: 150.1.3.3, Local port: 179
>>>
>>>
>>> *Snippet of netflow o/p on router A*
>>>
>>> Fa0/0          150.1.3.3       Local          150.1.2.2       06 C0
>>> 12       6
>>> 00B3 /0  0                     E2FA /0  0     0.0.0.0
>>> 57     0.2
>>> *Min TTL:       255   *                         Max TTL:        255
>>>
>>>
>>> The bgp peers are sending a ttl of 255. But then why is it working with
>>> "ttl-security hops 2" only and  not with "ttl-security hops 1"
>>>
>>> With regards
>>> Kings
>>>
>>
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