Kings is right. There is no reauthentication of IKE (ISAKMP Phase 1) with
PFS enabled. Just Quick Mode with new KE is done.


2011/5/18 Kingsley Charles <[email protected]>

> Based on my understanding, when PFS is used, the session keys derived in
> ISAKMP phase 1 is not used for encryption rather another set of session keys
> is derived in ISAKMP phase 2 using the DH group defined for PFS. Even, if
> the attacker knows the session keys that was used in ISAKMP phase 1, he/she
> can't crack the IPSec session.
>
>
> With regards
> Kings
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Vybhav Ramachandran <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Damn! It feels good to be back :). So here goes.
>>
>> I was studying about PFS yesterday. I couldn't get hold of any good
>> documentation on this so , based on bits and pieces of information gathered
>> from various sites, here's how i think it works. Please let me know if my
>> understand is correct or flawed.
>>
>>
>> *Without* PFS, what happens is, after the IKE Phase 2 lifetime expires,
>> if there is any traffic which has to go through the VPN, then the IKE Phase
>> 2 SA is renegotiated. The IKE Phase 1 SAs which are derived from the first
>> IKE Phase 1 negotiation are kept as they are and they are not renegotiated.
>> This could lead to a possible case where the attacker, if he/she got hold of
>> the IKE Phase 1 keys, could derive and decrypt the information being passed
>> between the VPN peers. This attack would last untill the IKE Phase 1
>> lifetime expired.
>>
>> *With *PFS, after the IKE Phase 2 lifetime expires, if there is any
>> traffic which has to go through the VPN, then BOTH the IKE Phase 1 and IKE
>> Phase 2 tunnels are renegotiated. This ensures better security.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> TacACK
>>
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