Tks for the insight Tyson: slight correction: there is an ISE physical
appliance that supports inline posture mode (the VM/ESX version works as you
described, and is not inline).
Possibly the VM version is too slow/not designed to support inline work.

It's interesting that Cisco has embraced VM/ESX versions of software - ACS
5.x
too.

With luck that enables crippled student/study versions in the future.

Any CCIE Security refresh with NAC appliance, ACS 5.x, ISE, IOS 15 will cost
a fortune to setup (not that CCIE Sec v3 is cheap by any means...).

Regards
Richard





On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Tyson Scott <[email protected]> wrote:

>  ISE is actually in my opinion more like ACS 5.X without TACACS+ but with
> additional new features.  TrustSec (The term used for ISE architecture) is
> actually more like NAC Framework in my opinion as the NAD is used as the
> enforcement point much like NAC framework.  You will never see an ISE
> appliance running in inline mode it is always a RADIUS authorization point
> pushing policies to NAD.  So in this regard it is actually somewhat of an
> advantage that you get pounded with NAC framework in the IPexpert workbooks
> because you will have a good start with understanding the implementation of
> TrustSec.****
>
> ** **
>
> Now obviously there are a lot more features and the integration with the
> Anyconnect client is much better than NAC Framework but it is not something
> that should be implemented without a good game plan.****
>
> ** **
>
> There are many things that can be used like profiling of devices on the
> network to better roll it out and not affect devices that do not support
> supplicants.****
>
> ** **
>
> In my opinion it is finally a product that is ready for prime time unlike
> its predecessors that were really never fully baked.  I think there still
> needs to be a little more work in helping with the a successful rollout but
> it is better than it has ever been before.****
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,****
>
>  ****
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Richard Chan
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:20 PM
> *To:* CCIE Security Maillist
> *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_Security] [OT] Has any one tried Cisco ISE 1.0?****
>
> ** **
>
> Has anyone tried Cisco ISE 1.0 in testing or production?
>
> Any comments on it's usefulness?
>
> It seems to be a hybrid between the Secure ACS 5.x series and NAC
> Appliance.
> Do you get the best of both worlds or are there situations where you would
> still prefer the specialized products (NAC Appliance, ACS 5.2).
> For the agent-side, ISE seems to be reusing the Cisco NAC Agent so all
> current Windows platforms are covered (c.f. NAC Framework -
> CTA was only updated to Windows XP and just EoL'ed.).
>
> Regards
> Richard****
>
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